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 Topic: Finally!
Finally! [message #497487] Tue, 20 January 2009 10:15
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Black history and White history is One, today!


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 Topic: National Prayer Service
National Prayer Service [message #498000] Wed, 21 January 2009 11:27
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01 /21/AR2009012101029_2.html?sid=ST2009012101096&s_pos=

Thank you for the tableau of religious freedom that we enjoy in the USA.

Parts of it drove me nuts. But, Thank you God for some who were faithful to the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and prayed in His name. May the seeds of truth that were spoken and sung go deep into the hearts of those who "heard," changing them, growing them them into men and women who love you and fear you rightly.


You can't run away from trouble. There ain't no place that far. ~Uncle Remus

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 Topic: Abstinence traiinng resources
Abstinence traiinng resources [message #499154] Sun, 25 January 2009 00:30
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http://www.justsayyes.org/index.php

I heard Mary Flo Ridley and was greatly edified.


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 Topic: IVF - a possible step forward?
IVF - a possible step forward? [message #499982] Mon, 26 January 2009 22:49
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I think this is a step forward, what do y'all think?

Polar exploration: small steps towards cheaper, safer, easier IVF?

A new method of screening eggs for IVF has been developed, promising better chances of successful IVF cycles.

Two out of three women fail at each IVF attempt, and a large part of this is believed to be due to abnormalities in the number of chromosomes in the egg. Up to half of the eggs in younger women (and up to 75% in women approaching 40) have abnormalities. In traditional reproduction these failures would not be problematic, since attempts at conception can easily be retried. But in the case of IVF each attempt will be expensive and time-consuming. The new method is a small step towards truly efficient IVF. But does it solve the ethical issues?

In the past eggs would have first been fertilized, then a cell removed from the embryo, the embryo would have been frozen and, once the tests on the sample cell were in a few days later, one of the frozen embryos would have been implanted. While this gives plenty of time, it involves the deliberate creation of some embryos that will be discarded - something many have objections against.

All normal cells except egg and sperm contain 23 pairs of chromosomes. Eggs and sperm just have one copy of each chromosome. When an egg develops it throws away the unwanted chromosomes into a small compartment, the polar body. The new method makes use of this. The polar body can be picked up by pipette in the lab, and subjected to chromosomal microarray analysis, a method that detects whether there are extra or lacking chromosomes. The answer is back within a day, and only eggs with 23 chromosomes will be fertilized and implanted. This method allows avoiding creating embryos known to suffer chromosome abnormalities.

Improving IVF like this not only saves effort, it may also reduce the number of twins and triplets born (since, as a precaution against the expected loss, currently several embryos are implanted). Twin pregnancies have a higher rate of complications, so making single pregnancies more common would benefit the children too.

Is this method selecting for enhanced or at least normal offspring? Not really, since the vast majority of embryos with abnormal chromosomes would not have implanted. Yet the microarray analysis seems to technically enable selecting eggs based on particular genes. This would not be a reliable way of getting desirable traits since the genes contributed by the sperm are uncontrolled, but it would allow selection that statistically favor some traits. It would also get around some of the ethical objections made against post-conception selection since (to my knowledge) nobody argues that personhood can begin before conception.


Your sister in Christ,

Elizabby

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 Topic: Bunny Trail from Knowing Your Neighbors: Loving Your Neighbor Poll
Bunny Trail from Knowing Your Neighbors: Loving Your Neighbor Poll [message #506312] Fri, 13 February 2009 10:07
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Loving Your Neighbor Poll[ 11 vote(s) ]
1.I think the verses to do with neighbors refer to everyone 4 / 36%
2.I think the verses to do with neighbors refers to everyone with whom I come in contact 7 / 64%
3.I think the verses to do with neighbors refers to friends and family 0 / 0%
4.I think the verses to do with neighbors refers to friends 0 / 0%
5.I think all the verses to do with neighbors refers to family or extended family 0 / 0%
6.I think the verses to do with neighbors refers the people who live geographically close to us 0 / 0%
7.I think the verses to do with neighbors refers to the local church body 0 / 0%
8.I think the verses to do with neighbors refers to our immediate neighbors 0 / 0%
9.Something else 0 / 0%
10.Some combo 0 / 0%

Okay, given what the Bible says about neighbors...[for example:

>If ye fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself, ye do well:<

-- James 2:8]

...here's a poll

[Updated on: Fri, 13 February 2009 10:23]


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 Topic: Poll about "In God We Trust"...
Poll about "In God We Trust"... [message #511028] Sun, 01 March 2009 11:09
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com:80/id/10103521/


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 Topic: Is there a Christian version/equivalent of...
Is there a Christian version/equivalent of... [message #511455] Mon, 02 March 2009 17:55
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...The Artist's Way?

[We're discussing creativity in Living Life to the Glory of God section...which reminded me of this book/program...]

[Updated on: Mon, 02 March 2009 21:45]


In Jesus

Sherry from NH
 Topic: Interesting article on the origins of Lent...
Interesting article on the origins of Lent... [message #512645] Thu, 05 March 2009 23:40
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This article is written by a leader in one of the traditional churches (obviously). When he says "Great Lent" he's talking about what we usually mean by "Lent". (Pascha is Easter, BTW.) This is clipped from a longer article about fasting, but I'd not heard this before, so I thought it was interesting.

Great Lent has a missionary origin. In the early Church, it was not the Christians but the pagans who fasted for forty days – those wishing to be baptized. To be baptized wasn’t as simple as dropping in briefly to the Church, getting anointed, and running off about your business.

A man preparing for baptism wasn’t limiting himself to just reading books, as is often customary today. Now, after studying books, attending lectures and sermons, the person decides, “The time has come for me to be baptized.” Back then, the preparation for baptism was meant to shake the very soul of a person. This was the time for fasting and prayer.

Now imagine a scene: you, a Christian, meet your neighbor on the street, who is still a pagan. You begin to preach the Gospel to him, telling him about Christ. He accepts it with his very heart and wishes to be baptized. Baptism back then took place only a few times a year, most commonly on the Holy Saturday before Pascha. And so the date is set for your neighbor’s baptism and he begins to fast in preparation. He lives next door. He comes over to visit you and you have chicken for dinner. You, a Christian, who told him about Christ and fasting, are enjoying this filling food, while your neighbor is conscientiously trying to hold the fast. To avoid such uncomfortable situations, Christians decided to fast also during this time for the sake of pagans, whom they recently led to Christ. Thus, Great Lent originated in the Church as a fast of solidarity, a time for praying not even so much for ourselves, as for those in this world whom we hope to guide to Christ.

In those days Christians themselves were fasting not during Great Lent or the Great Forty Days, but during Holy Week. So until now our fast is divided into two parts: the Great Forty Days and then Holy Week.

Similar stories explain the foundation of two other fasts – Christmas and Dormition. It’s important to understand that the Church fasts occur not just as a personal feat, but as a feat of our mutuality, our solidarity, when we feel the connection between each other.

Of course nobody can stop us from holding a fast separately, at a time appropriate for each. So every one of us is free to fast or not fast at any season, if he wishes so; however it’s much better if Christians would do it together as one body, feeling each other’s support, praying hard for one another and sensing these prayers.

[Updated on: Thu, 05 March 2009 23:44]


Your sister in Christ,

Elizabby

Evie is six, Zoe is four, and Benji is two!

Not online as much these days, contact me through email or my blog if you want to talk to me!
 Topic: An article on Depression
An article on Depression [message #513601] Mon, 09 March 2009 16:52
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http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2009/march/15.22.html


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 Topic: Article on neo-Calvinism in Time Magazine
Article on neo-Calvinism in Time Magazine [message #515182] Fri, 13 March 2009 11:46
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http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1 884779_1884782_1884760,00.html

[Updated on: Fri, 13 March 2009 11:47]


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 Topic: Coffee with Joni Eareckson Tada?
Coffee with Joni Eareckson Tada? [message #516481] Tue, 17 March 2009 08:59
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If you have ten minutes -- please listen to her -- and check out the website on which this located.


http://www.personhood.net/worldview/judeo-christian/joni-ear eckson-tada-on-personhood

Prov 31:8-9 – You should defend those who cannot help themselves. Yes, speak up for the poor and helpless, and see that they get justice. (TLB)


You can't run away from trouble. There ain't no place that far. ~Uncle Remus

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 Topic: Another evil
Another evil [message #519792] Fri, 27 March 2009 13:42
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http://www.freedom2care.org/

This is a website covering some more "change".
Very concerning. I can't help but think of those Christians who were "excited" for our country to have Obama as our leader.! Shocked What are they thinking?

[Updated on: Fri, 27 March 2009 13:43]


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 Topic: petition for address of grievances
petition for address of grievances [message #520883] Tue, 31 March 2009 17:27
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I don't know if you've seen this, but I thought I'd post the link in case anyone is interested in signing this.

http://www.912petitions.com/

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 Topic: And this from a man who didn't payhis taxes!
And this from a man who didn't payhis taxes! [message #522544] Tue, 07 April 2009 11:04
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“. . . We’ve done that because we want to make sure that taxpayers’ assistance is going to make these companies stronger, make sure there’s accountability, make sure it comes with strong conditions,” he said. “And we’ll do that in the future if that is necessary. It’s a single standard, a single principle. And our obligation to the American people is to do what’s necessary to try to bring recovery back on track as quickly as possible. . . ”


http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/172538d8-2210-11de-8380-00144feabd c0,dwp_uuid=ffa475a0-f3ff-11dc-aaad-0000779fd2ac.html?nclick _check=1


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 Topic: Drawing on a great debate 4 reasons to overturn RVW
Drawing on a great debate 4 reasons to overturn RVW [message #523972] Sat, 11 April 2009 11:40
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The English thought slaves an article of property – a view that echos in the abortion on demand’s view of the unborn child. Dred Scott, a black man, was denied citizenship in the USA by the USSC, and he and other African slaves were never believed to members of the human race – they were slaves, property – and that is not the worst that the justices affirmed. (Though many justices dissented from the inaccuracy of the history discussion.)

Going to what A. Lincoln said in the great debates (1850's)
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. . .
And now as to the Dred Scott decision. That decision declares two propositions—first, that a Negro cannot sue in the U.S. Courts; and secondly, that Congress cannot prohibit slavery in the Territories. It was made by a divided court—dividing differently on the different points. Judge (Stephen) Douglas does not discuss the merits of the decision; and, in that respect, I shall follow his example, believing I could no more improve on McLean and Curtis, than he could on Taney.

He denounces all who question the correctness of that decision, as offering violent resistance to it. But who resists it? Who has, in spite of the decision, declared Dred Scott free, and resisted the authority of his master over him?

Judicial decisions have two uses—first, to absolutely determine the case decided, and secondly, to indicate to the public how other similar cases will be decided when they arise. For the latter use, they are called "precedents" and "authorities."

We believe, as much as Judge Douglas, (perhaps more) in obedience to, and respect for the judicial department of government. We think its decisions on Constitutional questions, when fully settled, should control, not only the particular cases decided, but the general policy of the country, subject to be disturbed only by amendments of the Constitution as provided in that instrument itself. More than this would be revolution. But we think the Dred Scott decision is erroneous. We know the court that made it, has often over-ruled its own decisions, and we shall do what we can to have it to over-rule this. We offer no resistance to it.


http://www.freemaninstitute.com/lincoln.htm



Supreme Court decisions have no permanent standing – they can be, and in the case of RvW, must be overturned by later justices.


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 Topic: Discussing finances
Discussing finances [message #524177] Sun, 12 April 2009 00:16
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Here's a link to communication with our spouses about finances -- and some other really good articles:
http://www.crown.org/LIBRARY/ViewArticle.aspx?ArticleId=124


You can't run away from trouble. There ain't no place that far. ~Uncle Remus

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 Topic: Easter Gardening Tips
Easter Gardening Tips [message #524226] Sun, 12 April 2009 10:18
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Unless you abide – you will be cut-off!

Yikes.

Abiding is important – so important that God sealed His own with His Holy Spirit who is the Guarantee of our inheritance. Abiding is having the faith to rest in God’s promises; abiding is believing, trusting, that God is in us, willing and working out His pleasure, and we now can obey Him as the new creatures He has made us to be. And yes we can wander, even get lost in the mess of the world – and squander our Christian “fortune” – but Luke 15 teaches us that He doesn’t leave us or forsake us. And though everyday, sometimes minute by minute, we struggle, and appear unfaithful, He never is.

How can I know I am abiding in such a way to cause God to put down His clippers, and damp the flames?

Read Psalm 139:23-24. “Search me, O God, and know my heart; test my thoughts. Point out anything you find in me that makes you sad, and lead me along the path of everlasting life.” (TLB)

Pray those words and when God answers, ask Him to start pruning, bagging up and burning -- knowing, believing and trusting the Master Gardner!

Quote:

"I am the true vine, and my Father is the vinedresser.
Every branch of mine that does not bear fruit he takes away, and every branch that does bear fruit he prunes, that it may bear more fruit. Already you are clean because of the word that I have spoken to you. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in me. I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing.
If anyone does not abide in me he is thrown away like a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire, and burned.

If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you. (John 15:1-7 ESV)

[Updated on: Sun, 12 April 2009 10:24]


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 Topic: Found an interesting pro-life site with a spin on P.E.T.A.:
Found an interesting pro-life site with a spin on P.E.T.A.: [message #526778] Tue, 21 April 2009 11:16
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People for the ethical treatment of people – because you wouldn’t treat a dog this way!

http://www.prowomanprolife.org/


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 Topic: This migth even be a good science lesson.
This migth even be a good science lesson. [message #534003] Thu, 14 May 2009 17:55
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In a recent PBS documentary (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/columbia/ ) on what went wrong in the 2003 space disaster, when the space shuttle Columbia exploded, killing its seven-member crew, one tiny detail revealed the folly of pride. None of the scientists could have imagined the effect of a small piece of foam, though they had been warned. Moreover, the powers that be refused to use the equipment they might have used to survey the damage since they were certain something so small as that foam particle would not cause a reentry problem.

Yet, it wasn’t until some scientists actually did the math, calculating the speed and force such an apparently weightless bit of stuff could wreck – and estimated the damage. A small piece of foam blew a hole that might have been repairable.

There is a way that seems right – reasonable -- to men; yet, its end is not life. (See Proverbs 14:12) Science is not infallible – therefore pinning one’s hope that before a set time frame a fetus, a.k.a. unborn child, is expendable might be as risky scientifically as those who thought foam is harmless.


You can't run away from trouble. There ain't no place that far. ~Uncle Remus

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 Topic: Some encouraging news of abortion?
Some encouraging news of abortion? [message #534164] Fri, 15 May 2009 07:55
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Quote:

Bottom Line

With the first pro-choice president in eight years already making changes to the nation's policies on funding abortion overseas, expressing his support for the Freedom of Choice Act, and moving toward rescinding federal job protections for medical workers who refuse to participate in abortion procedures, Americans -- and, in particular, Republicans -- seem to be taking a step back from the pro-choice position. However, the retreat is evident among political moderates as well as conservatives.

It is possible that, through his abortion policies, Obama has pushed the public's understanding of what it means to be "pro-choice" slightly to the left, politically. While Democrats may support that, as they generally support everything Obama is doing as president, it may be driving others in the opposite direction.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/118399/More-Americans-Pro-Life-Th an-Pro-Choice-First-Time.aspx


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 Topic: Interesting.
Interesting. [message #536535] Fri, 22 May 2009 22:33
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124286145192740987.html


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 Topic: Elie Wiesel is
Elie Wiesel is [message #541075] Fri, 05 June 2009 10:21
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giving a beautiful speech right now at Buchenwald. He is so eloquent. OBama and Merkel spoke previously.


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 Topic: for those of us in Arizona
for those of us in Arizona [message #541817] Mon, 08 June 2009 14:33
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My mom sent me this website, it has a copy of the issues surrounding the company she works for, the Arizona Historical Society. After almost 150 years, the new governor is planning on phasing it out in 5 years. They have the largest collection of Arizona artifacts and maintain 3 or 4 old ruins/houses and a museum and a small museum in a downtown wells fargo in Tucson, a museum in Yuma, a museum in Tempe, and one in Flagstaff (the only one I haven't been to is the one in Yuma).

Its bad enough that they've had to make people retire early and let people go because of budget cut backs during this budget crisis, but I would hate to see such a museum go down the drain because of the governor (nor do I want to see my mom close the doors for good in 5 years or less, she's the accountant).

http://www.friendsofahs.org/new_upd.html

"history not learned is bound to repeat itself"

disclaimer: I am not bashing the governor, but this is outrageous.
 Topic: mayors gone running
mayors gone running [message #542499] Wed, 10 June 2009 18:34
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wow. I'm glad a friend on facebook posted this, would've never guessed.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090610/ap_on_re_us/us_mayor_imm igrant_partner
 Topic: more government control over private corporations proposed:
more government control over private corporations proposed: [message #542676] Thu, 11 June 2009 10:52
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Administration-Rein-in-pay-apf -15500519.html?.v=6


Perhaps it would be a good idea to steer our budding college students toward degrees that will enhance their chances for government employment. 'Looks like it is going to get bigger and bigger for a while.

(Praying for next years elections in the hope for some gridlock on all this!)


God is Love.
 Topic: Bunny Trail from D & C: A critique and a response
Bunny Trail from D & C: A critique and a response [message #543733] Mon, 15 June 2009 21:24
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Haven't read it all, but this looks interesting. It links to several sections of critique of _Reimagining Church_ and then allows the author to respond in two parts:

http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/the-frank-viola-project- and-why-you-should-take-it-seriously

Note: I probably will read these books eventually, but this is the kind of thing I usually avoid until if and when dh gets interested...hence, all the discussion about the books rather than just reading them Wink

And here's an article where the author talks about why he left local/institutional churches in 1988:

http://www.ptmin.org/LeavingInstitutionalChurch.pdf

[Updated on: Mon, 15 June 2009 21:32]


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Sherry from NH
 Topic: Obama needs to get his ideas straight.
Obama needs to get his ideas straight. [message #543891] Tue, 16 June 2009 13:52
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http://www.usnews.com/blogs/god-and-country/2009/06/15/while -defending-it-in-court-white-house-vows-to-repeal-defense-of -marriage-act.html
 Topic: A touching tale of two Iranian women -- with two
A touching tale of two Iranian women -- with two [message #544511] Thu, 18 June 2009 18:20
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widely different lives

Watched this last night -- and was interested in the conflict, loss and sadness both women expressed: http://festival.sundance.org/2009/film_events/films/queen_an d_i


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 Topic: check the foundation of the battlefield.
check the foundation of the battlefield. [message #546445] Thu, 25 June 2009 10:54
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What does your state law provide on abortion procedures? Steps some of us who want to change the culture’s thinking on abortion, and enable people to choose life, might consider: check the foundation of the battlefield.

In a discussion this AM with Doug, he stated:
* In the USA, abortion is given a special status that not other medical procedure I know of is given. Abortion is not governed by the same standards as other procedures. (AIDS reporting has been similarly circumscribed because the desire to protect the conduct that may have contributed to the medical condition.) For example from what he remembers about MD, doctors were not required to report abortions they performed, nor was there a requirement for “informed” consent.
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“Those numbers, sadly, come as little surprise because our state is home to one of the most permissive abortion laws in the country, having in 1992 approved a state version of the Freedom of Choice Act recently proposed at the federal level. Maryland has no parental consent law, no meaningful parental notification law, no informed consent law, no mandatory waiting period, no regulation of abortion clinics, and no abortion reporting requirement. What’s more, $2.7 million of state taxpayer dollars are used every year to pay for Medicaid-funded abortions and, in many cases, abortion is legal through all nine months of pregnancy.” http://www.mdcathcon.org/abortion
. . . Maryland is the only state where an abortionist may act with impunity while health care workers are vulnerable to job discrimination, lawsuits, poor peer reviews, and disciplinary action for refusing to perform or facilitate abortions. http://www.mdrtl.org/LawSummary.html


A collateral issue involves the husband’s rights – he needs to be informed – and his custody rights have merit, the extent of which to be resolved ed by an impartial third party.

So, a sound first step in stopping abortion on demand is subjecting abortion to the same standards as other medical procedures. Others who are not legislative experts can continue to serve the families torn by unplanned or unwanted pregnancies. His people have the courage to comfort and confront the culture of death that is sweeping over us.


You can't run away from trouble. There ain't no place that far. ~Uncle Remus

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 Topic: The Power of Speech
The Power of Speech [message #556973] Tue, 04 August 2009 00:45
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Recently an American President and a Harvard professor proved what Ambrose Bierce warned, “Speak when you are angry and you will make the best speech you will ever regret.” Surely both men might say things a bit differently if given an opportunity. Unfortunately, once spoken words can’t be retrieved, the way a used tissue may be.

Do you see your words always as edifying, educating seeds that will bear fruit? Are all your conversations fruit bearing opportunities – an opportunity to tell the truth? Dr. Paul Tripp says, examine the fruit of our words, even when we are surrounded by unreasonable people, in heated conversations. (Galatians 6:7)

How would you have spoken in Professor Gates’ place? He’s the Harvard professor who spoke with such passion he was arrested for disorderly conduct. Would you have maintained your poise if you heard the words Sgt. Crowley did? Or, do you volunteer your opinion, even before you know all the facts, the way our President did? What fruit might have been harvested recently if the President and the professor thought about how others might hear their words? Matthew Henry's prescient comment captures the wounds inflicted by their words: “The light of truth and the life of religion are often lost in the heats and mists of disputation.” (Matthew Henry’s comment on Philippians 2:14)

When I write, I want the words on paper to be the words I am thinking. Reading them before I send them gives me a chance to see if I have said what I meant. I want to bless readers with help, or hope, or humor – that’s the harvest I want.

Not always so with my speech.

Unfortunately, I sometimes open my mouth before engaging my brain, or restraining my heart, limiting the prospect of a harvest. Some chats can get complicated because I don’t always think as carefully about what the result of a conversation will be as I do when writing. And I can almost hear Job warning me: "O that you would be completely silent, And that it would become your wisdom!” (Job 13:5) My friend Flo Wolfe keeps this printed on a card taped on the inside on her kitchen cabinet! (http://wind-in-the-woods.blogspot.com/)

It’s in the kitchen I have frequently made speeches I have regretted -- deeply. In the heart of the home, my tongue has ignited plenty of heat! (James 3:6)

Dr. Eugene Peterson restates Paul’s counsel to the Philippian church: Do everything readily and cheerfully — no bickering, no second-guessing allowed! (Phil 2:14 from THE MESSAGE ) This is great guidance for children, church members, and Congress – and me. Bickering, arguing and projecting: Would it have been better for Professor Gates and Mr. Obama set a guard over their lips?(Psalm 141:3) How much better for me to hold my peace, and have folks think I was a fool than to speak and remove all doubt! (Proverbs 17:27-28)












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 Topic: Martial Law possiblity from a member of Congress
Martial Law possiblity from a member of Congress [message #561258] Mon, 17 August 2009 14:48
Michelle, IL  is currently offline Michelle, IL
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Quote:

He(U.S. Rep. Paul Broun, R-Athens) also spoke of a "socialistic elite" - Obama, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid - who might use a pandemic disease or natural disaster as an excuse to declare martial law.

"They're trying to develop an environment where they can take over," he said. "We've seen that historically."


Link to whole article:
http://onlineathens.com/stories/081209/new_480756985.shtml


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 Topic: info on health care plan and abortion
info on health care plan and abortion [message #563157] Sat, 22 August 2009 23:14
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". . . As for the House bill as it stands now, it’s a matter of fact that it would allow both a "public plan" and newly subsidized private plans to cover all abortions."
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/abortion-which-side-is-fabr icating/


You can't run away from trouble. There ain't no place that far. ~Uncle Remus

bwsmith
 Topic: What is wrong with our government
What is wrong with our government [message #564081] Tue, 25 August 2009 19:23
denise d
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This is a fluff/lifestyle article that is supposed to be flattering about someone in the social scene in Washington DC. I found it offensive. Who is ultimately paying for all this?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08 /23/AR2009082302381.html

[Updated on: Tue, 25 August 2009 21:11]


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 Topic: ACLU requests records of laptop computer searches and seizure of
ACLU requests records of laptop computer searches and seizure of [message #564360] Wed, 26 August 2009 16:00
denise d
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personal documents and files - that our own government does at our borders, even if there is no suspicion of wrongdoing.

I remember thinking several years ago that I might eventually become a supporter of the ACLU.

http://www.aclu.org/freespeech/gen/40848prs20090826.html?s_s rc=RSS

[Updated on: Wed, 26 August 2009 16:01]


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 Topic: December 2012 "Lottery"
December 2012 "Lottery" [message #564472] Wed, 26 August 2009 22:00
flymom  is currently offline flymom
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Last night my husband and I were watching tv when we saw a commercial for people who want to start entering a lottery. It is a lottery for your spot in a "safe" place for the world catastrophe that scientist are expecting to hit in December of 2012. It is actually for the upcoming movie but scary still the same. Remember how crazy people acted for the Y2K. But I am telling now that folks are going to be in a panic way beyond that for this expected end. Movie or not.
Sandy
 Topic: Remember that quadriplegic who wanted to die?
Remember that quadriplegic who wanted to die? [message #572272] Mon, 21 September 2009 03:51
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This is the guy who is a quadriplegic as the result of an accident, and wanted the nursing home to stop feeding him to let him die. He went to court to get an order to force the nursing home to stop feeding him, and he wanted sleeping tablets to allow him to pass away painlessly. He said if he didn't get what he wanted, he would travel to Switzerland, where euthanasia is legal, and get assisted suicide there.

Anyway, he didn't go through with it in the end, and has died after refusing antibiotics for a chest infection. The legal precedent still stands though, and the euthanasia advocate in Australia has been going on and on about people's right to starve themselves to death which has now been established in Australia. Confused


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Elizabby

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 Topic: a little more truth about Obamacare
a little more truth about Obamacare [message #573565] Fri, 25 September 2009 17:14
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http://www.politico.com/livepulse/0909/Ensign_receives_handw ritten_confirmation_.html?showall


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 Topic: NJM article on h1n1virus
NJM article on h1n1virus [message #576999] Sat, 10 October 2009 09:34
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http://h1n1.nejm.org/


You can't run away from trouble. There ain't no place that far. ~Uncle Remus

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 Topic: About a "human" fossil--Wanted to make sure y'all saw this . . .
About a "human" fossil--Wanted to make sure y'all saw this . . . [message #580692] Sun, 25 October 2009 16:54
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This link is from the New York Times. I found the commentary on another blog and wanted to make sure y'all saw this. Remember when there was such a big deal made last May of a discovery, a new human ancestor? Well, . . . never mind.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/23/science/23fossil.html?_r=1 &hpw

They never make such a big deal when they find out more information, do they? Information that blows a big hole in their story.

Robin H.
 Topic: Well, I called and emailed my rep
Well, I called and emailed my rep [message #584136] Sat, 07 November 2009 10:14
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About today's vote for the Pelosi Bill. Unfortunately, she's already made up her mind that she's voting right along the party lines, at the risk of incurring Pelosi's wrath, I'm sure. Oh well, at least I made my voice heard this time!


Teri in AZ

God is still on the Throne.
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