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Forum: General Chats
 Topic: What do you think of this statement?
Re: What do you think of this statement? [message #820858 is a reply to message #820856 ] Mon, 20 November 2017 08:48
Rosemary-MI  is currently offline Rosemary-MI
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Location: Lower mid Michigan
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Basically there is a group of people that have decided to be more intense in their prayers and several have had illnesses as of late. I see the illnesses as bad choices and hereditary and not the work of Satan. For instance, one lady twisted her back but she was lifting a patient. She had back surgery two years ago and was told to not do that. Another thing is her grand daughter has pneumonia but this kids gets it every fall as she has severe asthma and it triggers when school is back in (all those germy kids). Another person has lung cancer-heavy smoker for years.

So he was saying it's because they chose to be prayer warriors that this stuff is happening and he can tell they are doing God's work because these things are happening. He is even warning people that their lives will be harder and "bad" things will happen because of this.

I'm working on a ministry with a lady that gathers gently used toys, washes them and sets up a "store" where everything is given away free for Christmas. I was told this is not from God because it's working so well. I beg to differ as this is the 12th year she has done this and it grows every year. It reaches the destitute in our city and shows God's love in a tremendous way. There are over 100 volunteers working on this.


I think he says this so it's easy to handle or reconcile when the group falls apart. Should I ask him what Bible verses he is getting this from?

~Rosemary

[Updated on: Mon, 20 November 2017 08:50]


I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it!
Re: What do you think of this statement? [message #820859 is a reply to message #820858 ] Mon, 20 November 2017 09:17
Tracy in Peru  is currently offline Tracy in Peru
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I wouldn't even bother engaging. I think the "success" of an outreach is the fruit. Isn't that the point? Not how much opposition there is to something.

Now, don't get me wrong, I do think opposition to a ministry is a tactic of Satan. And knowing that can be comforting when you need to persevere through problems. But judging a ministry by the opposition rather than the fruit is backwards.

And I feel sorry for the lady with the toy ministry. What he said totally negates the sacrifice of time you and she have put into it. That sounds like a lovely ministry, and very needed.

Being a prayer warrior is a hard role. The results or fruit are rather intangible to measure. Perhaps his thinking comes from that focus.

Tell him to pray for you and the ministry if he has concerns. Ha!


In Him--Tracy
Re: What do you think of this statement? [message #820861 is a reply to message #820859 ] Mon, 20 November 2017 10:06
Rosemary-MI  is currently offline Rosemary-MI
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Registered: April 2005
Location: Lower mid Michigan
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The lady who runs the toy ministry doesn't know his thoughts. She runs a huge ministry in our city that does laundry, plants gardens, has the toy store and a kids program plus a few more things. She has volunteers from all denominations in town. I find it amazing! There are representatives from several churches working together with only God's love as a motivator. It is not a totally smooth operation there are a lot of bumps but it works!

I joined her because I needed something to do. My kids grew up, all my elderly people are gone or taken care of otherwise and I was looking for a job. I saw this, volunteered and she wants me to get more involved. I am still trying to figure out what to do with myself and this is outside my comfort zone and it's a big decision for me. It's volunteer and I wanted a paying job. So...

I feel - if you think something will fail it will. I'm sad this guy feels this way and the real kicker is he's my pastor.

~Rosemary


I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it!
Re: What do you think of this statement? [message #820863 is a reply to message #820861 ] Mon, 20 November 2017 10:20
Tracy in Peru  is currently offline Tracy in Peru
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That he is your pastor is really sad. It is such a glass half empty approach to serving.


In Him--Tracy
Forum: Living Life to the Glory of God
 Topic: Week of November 20
Re: Week of November 20 [message #820860 is a reply to message #820857 ] Mon, 20 November 2017 09:41
ReneeL.inMN
Messages: 4749
Registered: April 2005
Senior Member
Good Morning Lovelies,

I just had a brain flash that I have one week to get ready for UT, get the house ready for the people living here during UT, do Thanksgiving, work my last 4 days, get dd to/from PT, finish gift shopping, decorate for Christmas, and get a few meals in the freezer. I may just go back to bed.

Dd is down to one crutch and according to the surgeon and pt she will be walking on her own tomorrow. She's on the uphill swing, thankfully.

** Monday -- going to my husband's cousin's home with my favorite sister-in-law to hear about some new (expensive) health and wellness thing she is involved with. Confused Favorite sister-in-law and I couldn't figure out a way to say, 'no'!


** Tuesday -- PT and work

** Wednesday -- Pre-op - me

** Thursday -- brunch w/my family -- work for me -- husband and dd to his family

** Friday -- PT and work -- my husband is making noise about wanting to do some early morning shopping Shocked

** Saturday -- work

** Sunday -- church

** Monday -- surgery - me -- hernia repair from surgery 14? years ago!

Have a lovely day, all.


ReneeL.inMN
25yos, 23yos, 13 yod I guess I am old enough for adult children.

My stomach hurts, but I still choose joy! :-)

Re: Week of November 20 [message #820864 is a reply to message #820857 ] Mon, 20 November 2017 10:33
Jamie
Messages: 4118
Registered: April 2005
Senior Member
Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday - cleaning the house - it's a disaster. DH took yesterday off and it just became worse - and now I'm behind on laundry day as a result AND errand running day (today) because I have to catch up on laundry. I loved him being home, I truly did...but his doing that the same day I told Jonah he could build forts with couch / chair cushions was too much for my OCDness. And this morning, he began to do the same thing...only now he's adding so much stuff to it that I'm starting to feel itchy. I keep telling myself that the only company I'm having is my 2yo grandson on Thursday night and it'll be ok...old habits are dying REAL hard ladies.

Thursday is Thanksgiving, and we're supposed to go to my SILs for the big meal. I love going, and she requires that I don't bring a thing. Jonah looks forward to it all year so he can see his favorite person in the whole world, his older cousin (mid teens now I think?). I'm doing well emotionally this year, but haven't had productive alone time in forever. I honestly want to duck out of Thanksgiving for myself and send the boys along. I'm sure I would regret it, but there it is...I don't know what to do, but Franklin returns to work on Saturday for a solid week and things never slow down in the month of December.


Peace
Forum: Tidying God's Temple
 Topic: November 20th check in....
November 20th check in.... [message #820862] Mon, 20 November 2017 10:17
Tracy in Peru  is currently offline Tracy in Peru
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How is it going ladies? What are your plans for the challenge of Thanksgiving?

Last week, I purposely did not exercise. I took the whole week off. I slept in the mornings and was really careful with my diet and the reward was over 3 pounds gone!

My Thanksgiving plan is to just eat the veggies and turkey. I have enough of my own desserts in the freezer that I can just have those instead. I don't like that after Thanksgiving feeling.

Also on Thanksgiving, I am starting a running streak. The plan is to run at least one mile everyday between Thanksgiving and New Years. It sounds like a great goal to keep active.

I'm also starting to think about my goals and resolutions for 2018.


In Him--Tracy
Re: November 20th check in.... [message #820865 is a reply to message #820862 ] Mon, 20 November 2017 19:13
Lisa T.  is currently offline Lisa T.
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Registered: April 2005
Location: New Hampshire
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Oh, things are bad here. We had Thanksgiving yesterday, and we have leftovers today and tomorrow. After that, though, it’s turkey soup for the rest of the week! Wink Laughing

I hope to redouble my exercise efforts, which will have the effect (I hope) of increasing my body’s vitamin D production, in hopes of addressing the post-dinner mindless eating problem. That is really the main issue for me. I am also trying to keep my hands busy with Christmas gift projects and decorations.

I think I have to get at the calorie intake from a different angle than pure will power, since that doesn’t seem to be working.....


Lisa T.
Re: November 20th check in.... [message #820866 is a reply to message #820865 ] Mon, 20 November 2017 20:06
Tracy in Peru  is currently offline Tracy in Peru
Messages: 7968
Registered: April 2005
Location: Trujillo, Peru
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Lisa,
Can you tell me more about the exercise/vitamin D connection?

I am basically a vampire here in Peru. I am very fair, and the sun is too much for me. I have blue eyes and even my eyes can't handle the brightness.

But, despite good exercise habits, last year I was severely vitamin D deficient. So, I am just curious to know more and maybe figure out why even the exercise wasn't enough.


In Him--Tracy
Re: November 20th check in.... [message #820867 is a reply to message #820866 ] Mon, 20 November 2017 20:19
Tracy in Peru  is currently offline Tracy in Peru
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Registered: April 2005
Location: Trujillo, Peru
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Also, have you tried apple cider vinegar to help control late night desire to eat?

I had to work up to drinking 1 tbsp in about 10 oz of water, with lemon. But now I do it in the morning and at night. The sourness seems to reset my desire for sweets/carbs. I actually kind of like it now. It is supposed to have all sorts of benefits...stabilizing blood sugar, digestion in general, elimination in particular. I"m a convert.


In Him--Tracy
Re: November 20th check in.... [message #820868 is a reply to message #820862 ] Mon, 20 November 2017 20:30
Lisa T.  is currently offline Lisa T.
Messages: 5472
Registered: April 2005
Location: New Hampshire
Senior Member
Tracy, it isn’t the exercise, it’s the exposure to sunlight. Here in NH the sun is going down at 4:30 pm, and if I procrastinate about taking a walk, I miss my opportunity. Sunlight on face and hands is crucial for the body to produce vitamin D (and that means no sunscreen for 15-30 minutes of exposure). When the weather is cold and the sky is dark for 16 hours a day, I really have to be intentional about the sun exposure. I take a supplement in the winter as well.

When I am exercising, I am not so interested in food for some reason, so that helps as well. I try to do my hour of aquafit in the morning, and then take a 30 minute walk around midday.

I should try the apple cider vinegar...why not?


Lisa T.
Re: November 20th check in.... [message #820869 is a reply to message #820868 ] Mon, 20 November 2017 21:30
Tracy in Peru  is currently offline Tracy in Peru
Messages: 7968
Registered: April 2005
Location: Trujillo, Peru
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Ahhhh...I understand now. That makes sense.

I asked my endo about apples cider vinegar and she told me, "can't hurt, might help." I'm glad I tried it, and stuck with it through the first week.


In Him--Tracy


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