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| Re: Need a sub recipe for Chem [message #781144 is a reply to message #780329 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 02:31 |
 kiwicampbell
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What you need is a British delicacy called "Hokey Pokey"
It is very similar but with no nuts. Nigella Lawson has a recipe on the foodnetwork. http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/nigella-lawson/hokey-poke y-recipe/index.html
Back home there is a chocolate/ candy bar which is this stuff coated in chocolate called a crunchie bar.... And hokey pokey ice cream... Well lets just say in NZ as a kid the main flavors at the store were vanilla, chocolate and hokey pokey and I always chose hokey pokey. So thanks for the memory lane trip!
Blessings
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| Week of June 17 [message #781139] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 00:29 |
Lisa T.
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38 "You have heard that it was said, `An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.' 39 But I say to you, Do not resist one who is evil. But if any one strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also; 40 and if any one would sue you and take your coat, let him have your cloak as well; 41 and if any one forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. 42 Give to him who begs from you, and do not refuse him who would borrow from you. Matthew 5:38-42
How radical Jesus is! What a challenge He offers us! It is easy to accept a law of justice—but can we embrace a law of mercy? Yet we expect God’s mercy every day!
When I’m in the middle of a situation with a difficult person, how can I live this Good News? I can pray for the person. I can be the first to apologize, even if I am more in the right than they are. I can remember that however difficult, this person is a child of God, too, and I can treat them as such.
**How can I extend God’s mercy to others this week?**
Good morning! Last week of school here!  Can you tell I'm excited? Here's my plan for the week:
Monday: last 2 high school exams
dept takes Elysia out to lunch
grocery shopping
Tuesday: last FP class
Wednesday: last school day
furnace guy here?
Thursday: first day of vacation 
Friday: first day of CSA
Today:
Coffee & quiet
Pay bills
Period 5 presentations
Set up lab practical
Period 6 exam
Grade presentations
Clean up lab practical
Take Elysia out to lunch
Call furnace company
Grade exams
Start working on prep room
Steak salad for dinner
Yoga?
Have a great day! SOAP for all of you.
[Updated on: Mon, 17 June 2013 05:05]
Lisa T.
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| Re: Week of June 17 [message #781148 is a reply to message #781139 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 03:08 |
Emily
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Registered: April 2005
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Good morning!
I didn't get up til almost 8:30 - that is LATE for me. Fortunately it's a light day so I don't feel behind before I start.
Just an average summer week here...
Monday - some shopping, teach 2 piano lessons, gym
Tuesday - work, hospital visitation, gym
Wednesday - work, church, gym
Thursday - work, gym, music rehearsal
Friday - gym, work, cook-out at friend's house
Saturday - bridal shower, gym
Sunday - church x2
Today:
Up & dressed
Breakfast & computer time
Devotions/prayer
Laundry
Hit a few stores to price new lamps, night stands, desks, and curtains
Lunch & cleanup
Teach 2 piano lessons
Call to change nail appt. next week
Call bank
Text reminders re: meeting tomorrow evening @ church
Dinner & cleanup
Gym
Evening routine
Emily
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| Re: Week of June 17 [message #781150 is a reply to message #781139 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 03:22 |
Teri in AZ
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Sleeping in until 8:30 Emily? Wow, I so wish I could do that again! Instead, I woke up after a very restless night at 5:30.
Not a lot on the agenda today - take my math quiz (probably 3 times :/) and do laundry. I need to make a few phone calls as well.
Amanda seems to be doing ok. I've caught glimpses of her in the pictures the ministry is posting, but that's all. This week is full of training and developing the discipleship leaders, the rest of the team arrives on Friday.
Matt made the decision to apply to go on the World Race. It's a year long mission trip - one month of training, then 11 different countries in 11 months. He knows God wants him on the mission field, but he doesn't have a specific country in mind. This will expose him to many different needs and locations, and he hopes after he finishes that he's more clear about where he should serve. He's going to meet with our missions director and his mentor this week to discuss it more - mostly because they are outsiders who do not have any biases about the decisions he is facing - the biggest one is whether to continue to struggle to maintain a long distance relationship that seems to be holding both of them back, or release her.
I'm going to have my quiet time then get on the elliptical for a little bit. You all have a great day!
Teri in AZ
To quote Father Tim of the Mitford Series: "Pray the prayer that never fails."
God is still on the Throne.
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| Re: Week of June 17 [message #781158 is a reply to message #781139 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 04:25 |
Elise
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Registered: April 2006
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I'm having a slow start today. We got back from Arkansas at 11 last night, and I'm exhausted. This is a normal week here:
Monday - unpack, recover from trip and celebrate Father's Day
Tuesday - tutor, job applications
Wednesday - more job apps, visiting and Bible Study
Thursday - work
Friday - ??? maybe hit some yardsales or take ds dorm room shopping
Saturday - Spend some time with dh
Today:
Prayer and Bible
Shower and make bed
Unpack
2 loads of laundry One done, one in dryer
Make a Father's Day card for dh and wrap his gift
Run to Giant Eagle
Make dinner and dessert
Maybe go for a walk
[Updated on: Mon, 17 June 2013 10:12]
Blessings,
Elise
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| Re: Week of June 17 [message #781165 is a reply to message #781139 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 05:04 |
PamE
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Registered: April 2005
Location: AZ (but it's a DRY heat!) |
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Lisa, only a few more days to go!
Emily, 8:30 would be sleeping in late for me, too, lately! I actually slept till 6:30 this morning and it was wonderful! 
Teri, how exciting for Matt! What a whirlwind "tour" but what an awesome opportunity!
Elise, slow starts aren't a bad thing! 
We leave tomorrow for IL/MN and won't be back for three weeks or so. We'll be attending my nephew's wedding and packing Rachel up to bring her back home (where's the jumping up and down with excitement smilie, lol?). It's going to be c.r.a.z.y. but hopefully good.
Here's my to do today...
Up/dressed/make bed/wipe down bathroom
Quiet time
Pick up
Clean up kitchen
Thaw chicken/make chicken salad
Laundry
Pack
Gather eggs/feed chx/water
Laundry
Dr. appt for B
Drop B at Mom's
Get gas
Vacuum car
Gather chapter books for L to take
Vacuum house
Charge all electronics/pack cords
Pack last minute things
Dinner: ham and something else, lol
Clean up
Pre-prep for tomorrow
[Updated on: Mon, 17 June 2013 13:13]
'We can underline our Bibles till our pens run dry without a drop of ink splattering our lives. The self-deception slithers in when we mistake appreciation for application or being touched with being changed.' Beth Moore
~James 1:22~
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| Re: Week of June 17 [message #781168 is a reply to message #781139 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 05:12 |
praise2christ
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Morning! VBS is over, so it is back to "normal" for us. There is still a lot to do around the house, so I'm sure I'll be busy all week with that. Plus, I go back to work this week and we are starting our summer school schedule. I've decided to do the basics (reading, math, writing, etc) throughout the summer so that we can be ahead when the baby comes and take some time off. The kids are actually really excited about starting school back up (at least DD is, DS hasn't complained and that says he is at least not upset about it.
This week:
Monday - Run to the store to buy ink for my printer, school, work around house, laundry
Tuesday - School, work around house, work
Wednesday - School, work around house, go to church to make dinner for visitation, church
Thursday - School, work around house, laundry
Friday - Independent learning, work around house, work
Saturday - Work around house
Sunday - Church
Monday:
Morning routine
Start laundry and change over every hour
Start school (everything except math because I'm out of ink to copy the worksheets  )
Lunch
Run to store for ink and cat food
Math
Send kids out to play
Work on basement closet
Clean downstairs
Work in office
Start dinner
Work on organizing pantry while it cooks
Dinner
After dinner routine
Free time
Evening routine
Bed
Stacy, mom to 7 year old boy/girl twins
"Every man's life is a fairy tale written by God's finger." Hans Christian Andersen
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| Re: Week of June 17 [message #781173 is a reply to message #781139 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 06:22 |
Terri in NY
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Good morning, ladies!
After prowling around in the middle of the night for a few hours, I have a late start going here. I'm feeling a bit better but still am not allowed solid food until tomorrow and then it's a bland diet for two weeks.
Weekly Goals
* File state quarterly sales tax
* Make shopping list for friend's party I'm catering on Sat.
* Pick strawberries
* Make missions reading for Sunday
* Start working on favors for vow renewal ceremony on July 6th
* Work on what I want my bil to do for our vow renewal
* General house cleaning
Today
* File taxes
* Trip to post office
* Drop off form for community days at town park and purchase pool passes.
* 2 loads of laundry
* Kitchen cleanup
* Sew
* Take Nathan to neurologist for yearly appointment
* Dinner preparation
* Dinner & cleanup
* Crochet
Have a blessed day!
"Blessed is the woman who has a smile in her voice, a sparkle in her eyes, a song on her lips; a spring in her step, a warmth in her touch, a depth to her beauty, a purpose for her life, a joy in her faith, a hope in her breast and a love in her heart."
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| | Forum: Hsing HighSchoolers |
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| Topic: computer programming classes |
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| Re: computer programming classes [message #781159 is a reply to message #781024 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 04:31 |
Elise
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When ds decided he wanted to learn programming a few years ago, I said, "OK, find a book you want and I'll buy it for you." I know less than nothing about programming, so he was on his own. He chose some books from Amazon and has basically taught himself. When he needed help, he researched online and asked on a Linux message board until he found what he needed. (He's now part of the volunteer staff on that board - no pay but good experience.)
He will head to college in August and major in software development. We just got back from his freshman orientation, and the department head placed him in the advanced programming class based on their discussion of what ds had taught himself.
Blessings,
Elise
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| Re: computer programming classes [message #781180 is a reply to message #781159 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 07:18 |
Eve
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Wow, Elsie! Congratulations to your son! I am thinking that is probably the best thing to do. I think Isaac is so excited about these things it wouldn't be a problem for him to do that.I am feeling encouraged.
Eve
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| Topic: Death and dying and your view of this world..... |
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| Re: Death and dying and your view of this world..... [message #781157 is a reply to message #781132 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 04:07 |
Robin H.
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Yes, very much agree with this. Thank you. It is not natural, not what we were created for. Jesus saves us from eternal death and prepares us for the dying process. But it's not easy and I think we still rebel against it, in those we love, and in the death of creatures we see around us.
What I am concerned about, and this is an aside, is when people say "Death is a part of life." they can be paving the way in their minds for euthanasia, for a belittling of the life we, those around us, and even creatures are given.
Jesus came to give life and give it abundantly. And I'm grabbing that. I'm currently going through Hebrews. Hebrews 2 has some good clear things to say about this.
I really hate death. I've seen my mother and mother-in-law die, many animals die, and death in many horrible ways is such a big part of what we see and read about in the media. I really want to recognize it for what it is. It is inevitable, an earthly death, but I don't think we have to like it. I know that it says, "Precious in the eyes of the Lord is the death of His saints" and that's very, very true. But I think the story of our fall, the sacrifice Jesus has made on our behalf because of His amazing grace is a bittersweet story. I don't think the death/dying part is to be welcomed necessarily; perhaps when our bodies are just worn out and too diseased to go on. But in that sense, our bodies began decaying even as we were born because of the unnatural state of death brought into this world through the fall.
IMHO
I know that we are all probably agreeing but I think it's good to think this through. And I'm trying to do that. And probably not saying it well.
Thank you for your patience.
Robin H.
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| Re: Death and dying and your view of this world..... [message #781186 is a reply to message #781157 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 08:12 |
william
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| Robin H. wrote on Mon, 17 June 2013 04:07 |
It is not natural, not what we were created for...
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Right! Death is our enemy --not our friend.
[1Cr 15:25-26 KJV] 25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy [that] shall be destroyed [is] death.
There's never enough time to do Satan's bidding...
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| Re: Death and dying and your view of this world..... [message #781188 is a reply to message #781044 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 08:33 |
Mary Jo
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It is comforting for me to say, death is a part of life. It is something that happens to all of us and for all of us here who know we will be in a better place and that earth is not our home, it is comfort we will be where we belong someday.
I have seen so much death here on the mission field. I came to a point where I had to start saying, death is a part of life. If I did not I would be devastated every month. We do a funereal a month. Last night our drummers father suddenly passed away. There is more sickness, poverty, accidental death, bad medical care and shootings here in Mexico. It is chaos in general here and even people being run over by cars has to be way higher than in the states, sad but true.
Death did come as a part of the fall of man but it is now a very real part of all of us. We will all die, so I guess for me it is a true comfort to know that yes, death is a part of this life here on this earth.
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| Re: Death and dying and your view of this world..... [message #781195 is a reply to message #781044 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 10:34 |
Scott
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In our world, death is a natural conclusion of life. Hebrews 9:27 says that it is appointed to men once to die and after that, the judgment. I think this clearly indicates that death is an expected outcome of our lives. Folks might want to play semantic games about whether it is "natural", but if you are going to say that "natural" is limited to the world's "pre-fall" state, then the entire world is not "natural" to a large degree.
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| Re: Death and dying and your view of this world..... [message #781198 is a reply to message #781195 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 13:25 |
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| Scott wrote on Mon, 17 June 2013 10:34 |
In our world, death is a natural conclusion of life. Hebrews 9:27 says that it is appointed to men once to die and after that, the judgment. I think this clearly indicates that death is an expected outcome of our lives. Folks might want to play semantic games about whether it is "natural", but if you are going to say that "natural" is limited to the world's "pre-fall" state, then the entire world is not "natural" to a large degree.
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Sin is natural too but Christians don't go around thanking God for it, or welcome it as a part of life. Death and sin are our natural enemies... semantically speaking.
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There's never enough time to do Satan's bidding...
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| Topic: Parenting nearly grown children (again) |
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| Parenting nearly grown children (again) [message #781160] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 04:33 |
DeannaBanana
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Dh and I are still working out how to handle this parenting grown, but not quite children. Our 21 yodd has one semester left of college. She is doing well in school and is very hard working and responsible. We are so proud of her in so many ways. She mostly lives in the nearby town where she attends school, but comes home for a day or two at the time on weekends. She works part time. We heavily supplement her income. She works for dh a little, but most of the money we have been giving her is because she's our daughter and we want to help her.
The problem we have is that dd has not made decisions that line up with our beliefs regarding her boyfriend. He has been out of the country and will be returning soon. Dd asked dh recently what we want to know. IOW, should she ask permission to (whatever) or should she just do it. Since we're still supporting her what do we expect, is her question.
In the past this has meant conflict, because she asks for permission to do something she knows we aren't ok with (ie. a weekend beach trip) but is angry when we say no. Honestly, the months before he left were not very pleasant. Dh and I do not have any desire to live with that kind of conflict.
We (dh and I) have discussed the best way to deal with this situation, preserving both our values and our relationship with dd. We're thinking that the best answer is to offer her two choices--either she is grown and on her own providing her own living, making her own choices or we will happily continue to supplement her income and she agrees to live with our rules. I don't like that it feels like tying money to our rules. My heart is that it's more a matter of either you're an adult or you aren't.
My question is are we being reasonable? fair? loving? selfish?
Does anyone have another idea? or other insight?
I know that dd is struggling to make her faith her own. When I miscarried a couple of years ago, it shook her. I think her faith in God and in Christ's redemption is solid, but she's trying to figure out what she believes about prayer and who God is. It doesn't help that bf seems to have some very different ideas than we do. I trust God to be big enough to handle all of that. I don't want how dh and I handle things to create more of a problem for dd or her bf.
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| Re: Parenting nearly grown children (again) [message #781172 is a reply to message #781160 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 06:14 |
janetR
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If you are talking about supporting what you actually believe to be sin, I see your dilemma. If I knew that my dd would be sleeping with her boyfriend on a weekend beach trip, I would have a hard time continuing to support that. I would try my best to separate my financial support of her from my love for her and relationship with her. We might even reduce our support so that we are supporting her education and bare-bones living expenses but her social life and entertainment are her choices. Hopefully we could communicate well enough that she understood our dilemma.
In any case, I would not still be talking about "rules" at her age. Talking about rules with any child over the age of about 16 is IMO a really good set-up for conflict. We would try to frame the discussion in terms of what we can and cannot support with our money. With a 17-19yo we would frame the discussion in terms of what their values are and who they want to be. The bottom line might be rules, but honestly I can't remember the last time we talked about rules with any of our kids except the 16yo. And that discussion was about how his "curfew" is so flexible that we can't even really call it a curfew. The time he must be in on any given night changes with the circumstances of the evening, how well we know who he is with, etc. When he asks to go out, we ask "What time do you think you'll be home?" If his answer is later than we think it should be then we talk about it and tell him why we think it is too late.
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My answer to this is that yes, I think you are being reasonable, fair, loving, and unselfish. I see no hint of anything but wanting the best for her and seeing the best in her. My ideas have more to do with our family's style of letting go and letting our kids live according to their own values while maintaining relationship and influence with them, while still having boundaries that absolutely cannot be crossed because we must keep our consciences clean before God.
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JanetR
daughter of the King since 1980
wife to dh since 1981
mom to five of the most incredible adults on the planet, one wonderful 16yo, and grandma to two bouncy grandsons
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| Re: Parenting nearly grown children (again) [message #781176 is a reply to message #781160 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 06:32 |
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Janet, we don't talk "rules" with dd and haven't for a long, long time. I used the word rules but really rather than being a case of following rules it's about not choosing to sin. The issue isn't that we have rules, but God does and those we expect her to follow. We've taken the "we don't think this is a good idea because..., but you can and should make your own decisions" approach with issues that we have strong opinions about, but aren't necessarily sin. What happens is we say, "We don't think that's a good idea." and it causes a great deal of tension because she feels guilty if she does it anyway. Or she wants to cross the line and expects us to ok it. I'm sending you a pm.
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| Re: Parenting nearly grown children (again) [message #781181 is a reply to message #781160 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 07:44 |
Lisa R.
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We are going through that without just barely turned 20yod. Over the last couple of years, she's veered off a bit from what we believe to be wise, and sometimes into what we understand to be sin. From the age of 17-19 or so, we really did "crack down" on some of the *rules,* because she is very immature for her age, and really struggles with setting appropriate boundaries in some cases.
By the age of 19, however, we realized that she IS going to go her own way, and maturity levels aside, she IS of legal adult age, and we really can't micromanage her life. We had the same issue of her asking permission and getting upset if we said, 'No."
In our case, thankfully, we're not talking about beach trips, but some other stuff. Finally, we had a very long talk about what she's doing and what we believe we can support. For the moment, she is paying for her schooling herself, because we are not willing to spend money we're struggling to have for her to blow off classes or whatever, in order to do social things. She works and pays for her own clothes and gas, and whatever entertainment she is doing.
She is not yet in the sort of sin that would require us to "kick her out," and remove all support, but we did tell her that she is an adult and has to make her down decisions. So, for a while, she'd say, "I'm going to do such-and-such, okay?" And I would look at her and say, "Do you want me to tell if you if it's really okay with me, or would you rather just make an announcement?" She'd change it to "I'm going...." We did have to make sure the car was available, and that is something she's had to continue to check on.
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This is the view we're taking at this point.
My older children have graduated college, and lived with us until they were fairly stable financially. This one will probably be the one who saves up just enough to get a car and an apartment, and then cut so she can be free and independent. We will probably not offer much in the way of financial assistance at all when that happens, because we imagine we will not want to support what we imagine will be a fairly irresponsible lifestyle, at least for a time. God, of course, can do wonders.
But, yes, the deal is to be an adult or not. We do not wish to financially support a "adult" who is living irresponsibly, as we do not believe it is good stewardship of the resources God gave US...it's not a matter of tying our love to money, nor of manipulating our children with money. It could easily be viewed that way by someone who chose to view it that way...but that's not what is in our hearts. You can communicate that to your dd.
Blessings,
Lisa R.
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| Re: Parenting nearly grown children (again) [message #781183 is a reply to message #781160 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 07:46 |
Lisa R.
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Since we're still supporting her what do we expect, is her question.
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I should probably add that I'd answer this with telling her that as long as we're supporting her, we'd expect her to honor us, and that we feel the need to be responsible with what God has given us, and would hope that she would help us to do that.
Blessings,
Lisa R.
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| Re: Starting to get scared [message #781170 is a reply to message #780950 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 05:33 |
praise2christ
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Janet, thank you. I needed the reassurance that I should be following his lead and submitting in this. Even though I already knew that, I was doubting myself due to my fear.
I especially appreciate the advise to make DH responsible for deciding where the money will come from. Because I take care of the finances, he often behaves as if I should make the money magically appear when we need it. However, I'm going to make sure he is really paying attention to what we have and that it is going to have to come from the A/C fund if he wants to do something.
It is officially the first of the week and we have only check a couple of things off our two page list. So, he has realized that that timeline was unreasonable. I am going to keep working my way down the list, doing the things that I am able in my condition. But, I am not going to fret and worry about all the other things. I'm also not going to concern myself with when things get done. I will do them as I can, but I am not going to allow myself to stress over them. If DH realized that the one-week timeline was unreasonable, perhaps, as we go along, he will realize that even a few weeks won't cut it.
Several purchases that have been required to do all these small things (paint and a bunch of little things) have now pushed our A/C timeline back at least two weeks (I think it will be more like a month). So, we are probably looking at August before we can put the A/C in.
However, DH is looking at some people who advertised on Craig's List who say they can do it cheaper than my uncle was going to in an effort to get it done sooner. I have expressed to him that I believe that my uncle truly was giving us the lowest price for the job (he wasn't going to make any money off of it, but just do it for cost) and that I feel it is foolhardy to trust a stranger on Craig's List with a several-thousand dollar job like this. But, having expressed that opinion, I am going to let him make the decision and not argue. I'm praying for God's wisdom for him and that God will protect our finances whatever decision DH makes.
I'm also continuing to pray for these things regarding this whole situation.
Stacy, mom to 7 year old boy/girl twins
"Every man's life is a fairy tale written by God's finger." Hans Christian Andersen
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| Re: Starting to get scared [message #781190 is a reply to message #780950 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 09:13 |
praise2christ
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Thanks, Janet. I don't really feel like I can claim that title, though. I am still worried and I am still trying to bring my heart around to where my head it. I guess I am just trying to put on a brave face and start the actions, hoping the rest of me will follow suit.
I also admit that the fact that he seems to be slowly realizing that things might need to slow down a bit (although he still insists everything be done as soon as possible, he is realizing that as soon as possible doesn't mean NOW) is really helping. If he is realizing that, maybe his head isn't as far in the clouds as I thought.
Stacy, mom to 7 year old boy/girl twins
"Every man's life is a fairy tale written by God's finger." Hans Christian Andersen
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| | Topic: Becoming a Christian leader |
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| Re: Becoming a Christian leader [message #781143 is a reply to message #781136 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 02:29 |
Bonnie
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What a wonderful young man! What a great topic!
On the fly, a few things -
- He has to be seeking after God himself. He needs to be learning, just like would learn on any subject, but this one is just more important. Learn who God is and what does He have for your son's life? Read, pray, study, find an older man with a strong spiritual life and ask him to help him.
- Pray. Pray. Pray. Seek the Lord.
- Get under good preaching.
- Start serving somewhere. Volunteer, help at church.
All these things are about YOUR SON. Your son cannot lead her until God gives him that responsibility. All he can do right now is be a wonderful example of a growing Christian.
Bonnie
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| Re: Becoming a Christian leader [message #781155 is a reply to message #781136 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 03:51 |
janetR
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I'm not sure what "spending time" means for their particular relationship, but if this is intentionally getting to know each other, IMO he should be intentionally leading now. Not leading in any authoritative sense, but leading the spiritual direction of the relationship. Even if they are only casual friends, I can think of three things he can do to set the tone for the rest of their friendship, however long that may be:
1) He can intentionally bring up the topic of his relationship with God and occasionally suggest serving activities, either in the community or helping with a ministry at church.
2) He can fairly regularly suggest that they pray together, whether just the two of them or a group that might be together. I don't mean saying "We should pray every time we get together" but more when something happens or is said that calls for prayer he can say "Let's pray right now."
3) He can suggest that they study the Bible together.
All of these things are activities that do not require friends to be romantic or serious about each other. But if the relationship turns romantic or serious, those things will be a natural part of their relationship. And if she is not interested in those types of activities when they are just friends, that will tell your son a lot about what their relationship would be like if it became serious; he would be married to someone who claims to be a Christian but with whom he can't really share his faith.
JanetR
daughter of the King since 1980
wife to dh since 1981
mom to five of the most incredible adults on the planet, one wonderful 16yo, and grandma to two bouncy grandsons
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| Re: Becoming a Christian leader [message #781189 is a reply to message #781155 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 08:51 |
~Janice
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Thanks both of you for the great, great lists you are giving me. Bonnie, he is a wonderful young man but has been less than serious about his walk with the Lord over the past couple of years - not out-right rebellious but just blah. I am seeing this current interest as something God is using to help mature him. Because my son has been thinking of his faith in relation to this young girl, and where it could lead, I see his focus coming clear. A good thing.
Thanks for the input and I will definitely use your wisdom ladies. I'm copy and pasting into a list.
As you think of more please add to this thread. This is the kind of mom-brainstorming I love about CHF!
TAKE TIME FOR FRIENDS!
Janice T. ~ CHF member since 09/97 ~
Mom to four - ds 26, dd 24, dd 22 and ds 19 - and wife to my sweet husband Richard.
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| Re: Becoming a Christian leader [message #781192 is a reply to message #781189 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 09:44 |
Barbara K (NC)
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You know, Janice, I'm not the mom of girls...just of boys. I'm a little uneasy about focusing too much on him getting all leader-y. I think he should be really be concentrating on growing in his own walk and becoming the young man that God is calling him to be. I think the leadership will end up flowing out of that growth.
Although I'm not the mom of daughters, I am uncomfortable with the idea of encouraging my daughter (if I had one) to be following every guy she dated or was interested in. I do NOT believe that every girl needs to submit to every guy....and I am very hesitant about the idea of encouraging submission in a dating relationship. I really believe that a couple, if they're supposed to get married, will grow together into that relationship.
I'm kind of rambling, realizing full well that not having a daughter might disqualify me from addressing this. I just think that the focus should be on his own relationship and growth in the Lord. The leadership that FLOWS out of that will be part of that growth and part of who he's becoming. If he tries to EXERT leadership, he might find himself leading where God isn't asking him to lead. Does that make any sense?
I'm not articulating my thoughts very well today anywhere.
Barbara K (NC)
"And God is able to make all grace abound to you, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work." 2 Cor 9:8
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| Re: Becoming a Christian leader [message #781204 is a reply to message #781192 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 14:34 |
~Janice
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Hi Barb. I totally appreciate your input. I think this angle is good for my son right now because he feels the girl is passive about her faith. So, maybe it would be a little more like discipleship with a baby Christian (although I am totally against opposite sex discipleship!  ). I am emphasizing the "leadership" because he is not already been discipling or trying to lead, or influence anyone, towards Christ. At least not in the past couple of years. My suggestions so far have been along the lines of being an example, studying his faith for himself and being ready for any questions or discussions.
As a mom of boys and girls I totally get your thinking. My dds are naturally strong personalities and I can see how they might "take the reins" if it weren't for the fact that that is not a goal of theirs as Christian women.
I appreciate all the input. All the suggestions, including yours, are very strong and I take them to heart.
What's interesting about this girl is while he sees her as passive I see the total opposite. 
TAKE TIME FOR FRIENDS!
Janice T. ~ CHF member since 09/97 ~
Mom to four - ds 26, dd 24, dd 22 and ds 19 - and wife to my sweet husband Richard.
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| Topic: The church up the street... |
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| Re: The church up the street... [message #781149 is a reply to message #781122 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 03:15 |
Bonnie
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Just seeing this. Praying for that congregation.
Bonnie
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| Re: The church up the street... [message #781153 is a reply to message #781122 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 03:44 |
Cammie
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Praying for these Christians and their families.
Cammie
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| | Topic: Prayers for my family...Dad went passed away |
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| Prayers for my family...Dad went passed away [message #781203] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 14:09 |
Jondy
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I have posted before asking prayer for my Dad. He had early stages ahlzheimers and had a fall almost 2 years ago. He has been in a nursing home since then and not able to walk or stand. His disease progressed quickly this past year. He went home to be with his Lord last Monday at 1:30 a.m. He has been praying and asking the Lord to take him home for several months. He went downhill the last month or two. I would appreciate prayers for my Mom and the rest of my family. Even though we were anticipating his passing it is still hard. He was a wonderful Father to his 3 children and Grandad to his 7 grandchildren. We will miss him so so much but we are comforted knowing he is now pain free and with a clear mind, walking and talking with his Saviour!!!
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| Re: Prayers for my family...Dad went passed away [message #781206 is a reply to message #781203 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 14:43 |
Leigh
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So sorry for your loss. May God comfort your family.
Leigh
Tennessee
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
~~Benjamin Franklin
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| Re: Prayers for my family...Dad went passed away [message #781207 is a reply to message #781203 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 15:04 |
Cammie
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Sorry for your loss, praying for your family.
Cammie
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| Re: Prayers for my family...Dad went passed away [message #781209 is a reply to message #781203 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 15:17 |
Bonnie
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Praying, Jondy. The loss must be so hard, but seeing the ravages of Alzheimers first hand, I know you are comforted that he sitting with the Lord, in his right mind!
Bonnie
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| Topic: Weekly weigh in....June 16th.... |
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| Re: Weekly weigh in....June 16th.... [message #781142 is a reply to message #781117 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 02:15 |
Kelly E
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121 after almost all of last week at 119 due to an IBS flare. Feeling better now thankfully.
in His Grace, Kelly E
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| Re: Weekly weigh in....June 16th.... [message #781164 is a reply to message #781117 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 04:57 |
PamE
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I'm glad you're feeling better, Kelly!!
142.4 Still maintaining. We leave tomorrow for a three week trip and I'm praying that I can keep maintaining through that!
'We can underline our Bibles till our pens run dry without a drop of ink splattering our lives. The self-deception slithers in when we mistake appreciation for application or being touched with being changed.' Beth Moore
~James 1:22~
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| Re: Weekly weigh in....June 16th.... [message #781166 is a reply to message #781117 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 05:08 |
Kelly E
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Thank you... me too!
in His Grace, Kelly E
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| Re: June exercise accountability..... [message #781179 is a reply to message #780056 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 07:13 |
Tracy in Peru
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Three mile run....
In Him--Tracy
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| Re: June exercise accountability..... [message #781213 is a reply to message #780056 ] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 16:38 |
Tracy in Peru
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An hour at the gym...
In Him--Tracy
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| Topic: Need help finding art print... |
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| Need help finding art print... [message #781146] |
Mon, 17 June 2013 02:52 |
Tamara Eaton
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This painting of a mother reading to her child keeps popping up all over the internet, and it appears to be by Joyce Abbie Fox, but I haven't been successful in finding any information at all about the artist. I would love to buy a print of this to frame. Can anyone help me locate one?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_DkviASQFee4/SQYPJtiggjI/AAAAAAAAAg I/VV2ydBU71YQ/s400/reading.jpg
[Updated on: Mon, 17 June 2013 02:56]
Blessings,
Tamara
"There is always enough time to do the will of God. Don't Waste Your Life!"
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