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What do you think of this statement? [message #820855] Sun, 19 November 2017 19:20 Go to next message
Rosemary-MI  is currently offline Rosemary-MI
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Someone said to me the other day that if you are doing/working in a ministry for the Lord you will face opposition and if you are not opposed it's not a Godly mission.


What do you think of that statement? Agree, disagree and why

~Rosemary


I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it!
Re: What do you think of this statement? [message #820856 is a reply to message #820855 ] Sun, 19 November 2017 20:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tracy in Peru  is currently offline Tracy in Peru
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Pffffffttttt Razz Disagree. You could be doing the ministry that God called you to and He is holding back the opposition.

Plus "opposition" is a bit arbitrary. What I consider to be a normal day on the field, has sent other missionaries home. And what I consider a deal-breaker, would be a sacrifice someone else is willing to make.


In Him--Tracy
Re: What do you think of this statement? [message #820858 is a reply to message #820856 ] Mon, 20 November 2017 08:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rosemary-MI  is currently offline Rosemary-MI
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Basically there is a group of people that have decided to be more intense in their prayers and several have had illnesses as of late. I see the illnesses as bad choices and hereditary and not the work of Satan. For instance, one lady twisted her back but she was lifting a patient. She had back surgery two years ago and was told to not do that. Another thing is her grand daughter has pneumonia but this kids gets it every fall as she has severe asthma and it triggers when school is back in (all those germy kids). Another person has lung cancer-heavy smoker for years.

So he was saying it's because they chose to be prayer warriors that this stuff is happening and he can tell they are doing God's work because these things are happening. He is even warning people that their lives will be harder and "bad" things will happen because of this.

I'm working on a ministry with a lady that gathers gently used toys, washes them and sets up a "store" where everything is given away free for Christmas. I was told this is not from God because it's working so well. I beg to differ as this is the 12th year she has done this and it grows every year. It reaches the destitute in our city and shows God's love in a tremendous way. There are over 100 volunteers working on this.


I think he says this so it's easy to handle or reconcile when the group falls apart. Should I ask him what Bible verses he is getting this from?

~Rosemary

[Updated on: Mon, 20 November 2017 08:50]


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Re: What do you think of this statement? [message #820859 is a reply to message #820858 ] Mon, 20 November 2017 09:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tracy in Peru  is currently offline Tracy in Peru
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I wouldn't even bother engaging. I think the "success" of an outreach is the fruit. Isn't that the point? Not how much opposition there is to something.

Now, don't get me wrong, I do think opposition to a ministry is a tactic of Satan. And knowing that can be comforting when you need to persevere through problems. But judging a ministry by the opposition rather than the fruit is backwards.

And I feel sorry for the lady with the toy ministry. What he said totally negates the sacrifice of time you and she have put into it. That sounds like a lovely ministry, and very needed.

Being a prayer warrior is a hard role. The results or fruit are rather intangible to measure. Perhaps his thinking comes from that focus.

Tell him to pray for you and the ministry if he has concerns. Ha!


In Him--Tracy
Re: What do you think of this statement? [message #820861 is a reply to message #820859 ] Mon, 20 November 2017 10:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rosemary-MI  is currently offline Rosemary-MI
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The lady who runs the toy ministry doesn't know his thoughts. She runs a huge ministry in our city that does laundry, plants gardens, has the toy store and a kids program plus a few more things. She has volunteers from all denominations in town. I find it amazing! There are representatives from several churches working together with only God's love as a motivator. It is not a totally smooth operation there are a lot of bumps but it works!

I joined her because I needed something to do. My kids grew up, all my elderly people are gone or taken care of otherwise and I was looking for a job. I saw this, volunteered and she wants me to get more involved. I am still trying to figure out what to do with myself and this is outside my comfort zone and it's a big decision for me. It's volunteer and I wanted a paying job. So...

I feel - if you think something will fail it will. I'm sad this guy feels this way and the real kicker is he's my pastor.

~Rosemary


I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it!
Re: What do you think of this statement? [message #820863 is a reply to message #820861 ] Mon, 20 November 2017 10:20 Go to previous message
Tracy in Peru  is currently offline Tracy in Peru
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That he is your pastor is really sad. It is such a glass half empty approach to serving.


In Him--Tracy
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