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icon5.gif  Request from DS5y: I want to learn to spell, not read. [message #819709] Wed, 22 March 2017 11:55 Go to next message
Jamie
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Please help me out here in interpreting my son's request..

I've not tried to teach Jonah to read; however, we do sound out things on occasion.

Background:

Jonah learned the standard sounds of the alphabet while using letter "flash cards" and other manipulatives / projects (to match sound and sight) before we learned the actual names of the letters. From there, we transitioned to using both sound and proper name interchangeably. Super easy.

In December or January, Jonah began to try to sound out a few words here and there, but has had zero interest in true reading (still is only interested in my reading to him, or flipping through books for pictures). When he discovered a word he could read, Jonah would be very excited to share, and Franklin and I have made a point in telling him "that's reading, Jonah!" I've not pushed him in any way.

My from the beginning philosophy was that I press or worry if he could read until after his sixth birthday. Rather, we'd simply proceed with alphabet/sound discoveries through homeschool-flavored play and lots of my reading to Jonah with no anxiety for either one of us. Absolutely no curriculum is used/borrowed...I'm kinda making up what comes next as we go along. Maybe I should have a language spine of some sort? But, I digress.

He just came to me a few moments ago, out of the blue and said, "Mom, I want to learn to spell BUT NOT READ."

How do I interpret this? I kinda thought I was "teaching" him to spell and read simultaneously, by providing letter sounds, identifications, sounding out letters that are in a word. In fact, I'm creating little projects right now that pairs consonants with every vowel (and double vowels like "oo"). I wanted to do that before making consonant digraphs (th, sh, ph, etc) and their vowel pairing.

I'm sort of thinking he's worried that our story time (fiction and non fiction, several times a day) will come to a halt if he is taught to read? After all, at the age of five, he's seen plenty of independent work become more and more his responsibility once he's mastered (like putting on his shoes, getting dressed, cleaning up his toys, LOL). Most things he is happy to do, but was originally reluctant. But that is just my working theory.

Should I change course in what I'm doing? If so, what?

[Updated on: Wed, 22 March 2017 11:55]


Peace
Re: Request from DS5y: I want to learn to spell, not read. [message #819710 is a reply to message #819709 ] Wed, 22 March 2017 12:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Lisa T.  is currently offline Lisa T.
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My dd wanted to write stories. That was more important to her than reading. When her first grade teacher taught them "invented spelling" (basically, just spelling words they did not know using phonetics), she was thrilled and became a prolific writer. Of course, reading came along with that!

One other possible consideration: could he have a vision problem? If he is having a hard time making sense of what he sees, it would make reading challenging. Sometimes it's a matter of both eyes working together to see the letters. Just something for your awareness.

If it is as you suspect and he doesn't want to lose story time, you could reassure him...or you could tempt him by reading a long story (like a chapter book) that has some suspense. Read just a bit each day, so he really wants to know what comes next. That might give him an incentive to read the next part by himself eventually!


Lisa T.
Re: Request from DS5y: I want to learn to spell, not read. [message #819712 is a reply to message #819709 ] Wed, 22 March 2017 23:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jamie wrote on Wed, 22 March 2017 10:55

Please help me out here in interpreting my son's request..

I've not tried to teach Jonah to read; however, we do sound out things on occasion.

Background:

Jonah learned the standard sounds of the alphabet while using letter "flash cards" and other manipulatives / projects (to match sound and sight) before we learned the actual names of the letters. From there, we transitioned to using both sound and proper name interchangeably. Super easy.

In December or January, Jonah began to try to sound out a few words here and there, but has had zero interest in true reading (still is only interested in my reading to him, or flipping through books for pictures). When he discovered a word he could read, Jonah would be very excited to share, and Franklin and I have made a point in telling him "that's reading, Jonah!" I've not pushed him in any way.

My from the beginning philosophy was that I press or worry if he could read until after his sixth birthday. Rather, we'd simply proceed with alphabet/sound discoveries through homeschool-flavored play and lots of my reading to Jonah with no anxiety for either one of us. Absolutely no curriculum is used/borrowed...I'm kinda making up what comes next as we go along. Maybe I should have a language spine of some sort? But, I digress.

He just came to me a few moments ago, out of the blue and said, "Mom, I want to learn to spell BUT NOT READ."

How do I interpret this? I kinda thought I was "teaching" him to spell and read simultaneously, by providing letter sounds, identifications, sounding out letters that are in a word. In fact, I'm creating little projects right now that pairs consonants with every vowel (and double vowels like "oo"). I wanted to do that before making consonant digraphs (th, sh, ph, etc) and their vowel pairing.

I'm sort of thinking he's worried that our story time (fiction and non fiction, several times a day) will come to a halt if he is taught to read? After all, at the age of five, he's seen plenty of independent work become more and more his responsibility once he's mastered (like putting on his shoes, getting dressed, cleaning up his toys, LOL). Most things he is happy to do, but was originally reluctant. But that is just my working theory.

Should I change course in what I'm doing? If so, what?


You could do Spalding. It teaches children to read by teaching them to spell. Smile


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Re: Request from DS5y: I want to learn to spell, not read. [message #819713 is a reply to message #819709 ] Thu, 23 March 2017 00:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie
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Lisa, could you expound more on what kind of problems? I've not seen him give any hints about poor eyesight...no headaches, works with small things, can spot things...do you mean more like dyslexia or something?


Ellie, I'll give that a looksie.


Peace
Re: Request from DS5y: I want to learn to spell, not read. [message #819714 is a reply to message #819713 ] Thu, 23 March 2017 06:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Lisa T.  is currently offline Lisa T.
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Jamie wrote on Wed, 22 March 2017 23:46

Lisa, could you expound more on what kind of problems? I've not seen him give any hints about poor eyesight...no headaches, works with small things, can spot things...do you mean more like dyslexia or something?




I am no expert in this and have no personal experience, but I believe there can be tracking problems because the child's eyes don't work together well. It might manifest like dyslexia, but it is not a neurological issue (which I believe dyslexia is)...it is an issue with the eye muscles and coordination.

I'll look later and see if I can find a link.


Lisa T.
Re: Request from DS5y: I want to learn to spell, not read. [message #819719 is a reply to message #819714 ] Thu, 23 March 2017 13:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie
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Lisa T. wrote on Thu, 23 March 2017 06:17

Jamie wrote on Wed, 22 March 2017 23:46

Lisa, could you expound more on what kind of problems? I've not seen him give any hints about poor eyesight...no headaches, works with small things, can spot things...do you mean more like dyslexia or something?




I am no expert in this and have no personal experience, but I believe there can be tracking problems because the child's eyes don't work together well. It might manifest like dyslexia, but it is not a neurological issue (which I believe dyslexia is)...it is an issue with the eye muscles and coordination.

I'll look later and see if I can find a link.


OK, dumb question (and I know you just said you had no experience, LOL, so this might be futile)...would this be something I would ask his pediatric about, or would I make an appointment with someone else?


Peace
Re: Request from DS5y: I want to learn to spell, not read. [message #819720 is a reply to message #819709 ] Thu, 23 March 2017 14:50 Go to previous message
Lisa T.  is currently offline Lisa T.
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Jamie, here's an article I found:

http://www.allaboutvision.com/parents/learning.htm

It lists signs of learning related vision problems. It is the functional and perceptual vision problems that I was thinking about (as opposed to just needing glasses). I guess I wouldn't worry about getting him evaluated unless I saw some of those signs...but it is good to have the awareness.

[Updated on: Thu, 23 March 2017 14:55]


Lisa T.
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