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PMS [message #818025] Wed, 17 August 2016 23:26 Go to next message
praise2christ  is currently offline praise2christ
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Ladies, I have always struggled with PMS, but the last few months have been horrible. A few days before I start, I have a day where every tiny thing grates on my nerves, I am completely overwhelmed by the simplest things, and I find myself yelling at the kids all day. Even when I recognize what is causing it, I don't seem to be able to control myself.

Today I could feel myself reaching that point, so I tried to remove myself to calm down before I started yelling. But, I was barely able to get a spare moment to myself. I had gone to go get a shower and try to escape, but DD ended up bringing Jack to me to wash because he had smeared peanut butter all over his arms. So, my relaxing shower turned into trying to wash sticky, greasy pb off of a whiny toddler. I had wanted to spend some time in prayer, but it just didn't happen.

If I could plan when this would happen, I might be able to arrange for my dad or sister to watch the kids that day. But, my cycles are pretty unpredictable.

My periods themselves are pretty bad, as well (long, heavy, etc). But, this one day before I start is the worst. I truly feel out of control.

If you ladies have experienced this, what did you do to help deal with it?


Stacy, mom to 12-year-old boy/girl twins and a three-year-old boy.

"Every man's life is a fairy tale written by God's finger." Hans Christian Andersen
Re: PMS [message #818026 is a reply to message #818025 ] Thu, 18 August 2016 08:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Stacy,

Are you able to get regular exercise? That is my go-to for what you are describing. Regularly keeps things more even emotionally and then doing something "extra" on the days it is worse seems to help.

I'm sure you will get lots of other ideas too.


In Him--Tracy
Re: PMS [message #818028 is a reply to message #818025 ] Thu, 18 August 2016 09:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I lived with this for years and years and years. The grousy part pre-cycle was new to me only the last few years (maybe eight or so?) and would catch me unawares. My cycles were always messed up, so it took me a good long while to figure out a connection between the two. It was very intense and happened at a very crucial time in the family, about the time my one daughter must have been planning on estrangement. It felt like the more I tried to control the stronger it would become....it was like a tea-kettle whistle: simmer, simmer, simmer, blast. I ended up reading about perimenopause searching for *something* and that seemed to really help...just the knowledge. Unfortunately, for me, it took the super big loss and crash of our family (and consequential absence of most of my triggers) for me to have the space to handle. I will say that getting MORE sleep and changing diet (mostly organic, but taking vitamins which was something I was not in the habit of doing) helped. Exercise also helped (but it would be post-baby #4 before I started that). The kick of estrogen by having a late-in-life baby was probably the biggest help (sorry) and it "reset" me for about 4 years. My cycles even, for the first time in my life, became regular and manageable. The last 5-6 months, it's started going wonky again. It took me about 2 months to figure it out (or rather, to verify since I recognized). During the last 6+ months, exercise, diet, vitamins, sleep all went out the window...and they are hard habits to pick back up, but we're pushing forward! Once you get into the practice of recognizing and doing some pre-emptive things, it is a bit easier and the waves of anger/irritation a bit less.

Sadly, while I sought counseling for other things which also helped, I didn't seek help from a doctor and wish that I had had taken that step for myself.


Peace
Re: PMS [message #818031 is a reply to message #818028 ] Thu, 18 August 2016 18:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I started taking utrophin from standard process and .iodomere to get enough iodine for my thyroid (note:you can take too much, dr.'s say, but I normally do not have enough, as it comes from kelp, white ocean fish that feed on kelp beds and sushi...only iodized salt has added iodine and we do not eat much fish or salt) and everything evened out. I am not connected to the company at all....it definitely is related to dietary issues for me....

[Updated on: Fri, 19 August 2016 23:18]


In Jesus

Sherry from NH
Re: PMS [message #818034 is a reply to message #818025 ] Thu, 18 August 2016 22:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Have you researched PMDD? Taking an antidepressant for 10 days, starting so many days before your period is supposed to begin and continuing through the 10 days, is very helpful to a lot of women. I know it helps me, but I take the anti-d everyday (I tried the 10 days but like you, my periods are unpredictable and I wasn't getting enough coverage). I take a lower dose of Celexa. It helps. A lot.

Is there anyway for you to get your periods under control as far as regularity and heaviness goes? I forget how old you are. Could you use a birth control pill to help with that, or hormonal supplement or something? That would probably help as well- at least you would know what to predict.


Michele
Re: PMS [message #818038 is a reply to message #818025 ] Fri, 19 August 2016 08:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks, ladies. I don't get much exercise. This is something I'm trying to fix since I know I need to be more active. I'll make a point to be extra diligent as my cycle approaches.

Jamie, what you described is exactly how I feel! It is so overwhelming! I do get as much sleep as possible. I have sleep apnea, though. Even with treatment, my sleep isn't really great. I'm sure our mattress isn't helping right now, either since both DH and I wake up in pain every day, but it will be a few months until we can get a new one.

Sherry, I am pretty sure my thyroid is okay. At least it was at my last appt. My mom had thyroid disease (until they removed the thyroid), so they always check that.

Michele, I have had bad experiences with hormones and side effects. So, I'd rather avoid them. My periods are bad enough that I have considered it, but when I think about what comes with the benefits, I just don't want to risk it.

Another kink in this is that DH and I don't have health insurance right now. It is way too expensive through DH's work (over half our take-home pay each month) and I just finished a 14 month battle with our state's exchange because they messed everything up so badly. So, I have to wait until DH gets a raise (should be soon) and try to find a plan.


Stacy, mom to 12-year-old boy/girl twins and a three-year-old boy.

"Every man's life is a fairy tale written by God's finger." Hans Christian Andersen
Re: PMS [message #818044 is a reply to message #818025 ] Fri, 19 August 2016 10:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Stacy, I would really research natural remedies. I know so many people who have been helped that way.

Also, regular doctors say you're fine if the thyroid test shows a certain level, but naturopaths say they've got it set too high. A lot of people who were told by their regular doctor that they didn't have a thyroid problem, were helped by some sort of thyroid support.


Lucille
Re: PMS [message #818045 is a reply to message #818025 ] Fri, 19 August 2016 12:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Stacy--even a short walk daily will help. Your twins are old enough that they could "play" in a park while you walked around with Jack in a stroller.

On an "antsy" day for you, ditch one school subject and take an extra walk instead. No one will complain, it is a win-win for everyone.

It doesn't have to be much, just a little will help. Even if you have to drive to someplace that will work.


In Him--Tracy
Re: PMS [message #818046 is a reply to message #818025 ] Fri, 19 August 2016 17:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mess around on this website and see if anything seems helpful. I found great help through the peri-menopausal/menopausal stuff from him. I used the progesterone cream that he recommends (hint: buy it on amazon for half the price as health food stores, if you go that route).

I'm not recommending it for you because I'm not sure how it fits with younger women and their cycles, and my research wasn't relevant to that situation...but I gathered there is help there for you as well. Again...do the research and see if anything seems helpful.

Meanwhile, the others have given great advice. I'd add drinking plenty of water to stay hydrated, and making sure your diet is reasonably healthy.


Blessings,
Lisa R.
Re: PMS [message #818047 is a reply to message #818025 ] Fri, 19 August 2016 18:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Celexa is not a hormone, it's an anti-depressant. I didn't read back through the posts to see what I wrote about it, but just to clear up any confusion.


Michele
Re: PMS [message #818049 is a reply to message #818047 ] Fri, 19 August 2016 22:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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MicheleB wrote on Fri, 19 August 2016 18:00

Celexa is not a hormone, it's an anti-depressant. I didn't read back through the posts to see what I wrote about it, but just to clear up any confusion.

I know. Razz I was referring to the birth control pills. But, I've had bad experiences with anti-depressants, too. I was misdiagnosed with depression for seven years and was on several different meds (Celexa was one). They made me gain a ton of weight and left me pretty numb. I'd really like to avoid both the hormones and the antidepressants if possible.


Stacy, mom to 12-year-old boy/girl twins and a three-year-old boy.

"Every man's life is a fairy tale written by God's finger." Hans Christian Andersen
Re: PMS [message #818051 is a reply to message #818049 ] Sat, 20 August 2016 08:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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praise2christ wrote on Fri, 19 August 2016 22:04

MicheleB wrote on Fri, 19 August 2016 18:00

Celexa is not a hormone, it's an anti-depressant. I didn't read back through the posts to see what I wrote about it, but just to clear up any confusion.

I know. Razz I was referring to the birth control pills. But, I've had bad experiences with anti-depressants, too. I was misdiagnosed with depression for seven years and was on several different meds (Celexa was one). They made me gain a ton of weight and left me pretty numb. I'd really like to avoid both the hormones and the antidepressants if possible.



I'm not a doctor, and I'm not trying to convince you to go against your wishes, but just offering food for thought. Remember that our bodies are designed to work in a certain way. When things, including hormones, are out of balance, sometimes you have to balance them a bit. The things that are happening to you prior to the start of your cycle are (as far as I can tell) hormone related. There may be plenty of ways, such as diet and exercise, that will help your body adjust its own hormone levels...but I would just recommend that if the issue truly is unbalanced hormones, don't rule out the solution that might balance them and solve your problems. Again, I'm not a doctor, not diagnosing, and not even suggesting that some sort of hormones, whether birth control pills or a cream, is going to be the proper solution...I'm just suggesting that you see your doctor and keep an open mind to the possibilities for relief. If you had diabetes and had tried controlling with diet, you wouldn't say, "well, I just really don't want to take insulin."

Meanwhile, you can google all the dietary tips for helping with PMS. There's lots of info out there.


Blessings,
Lisa R.
Re: PMS [message #818052 is a reply to message #818046 ] Sat, 20 August 2016 10:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lisa, you forgot to post a website.


Lucille
Re: PMS [message #818054 is a reply to message #818051 ] Sat, 20 August 2016 19:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lisa R. wrote on Sat, 20 August 2016 08:20


I'm not a doctor, and I'm not trying to convince you to go against your wishes, but just offering food for thought. Remember that our bodies are designed to work in a certain way. When things, including hormones, are out of balance, sometimes you have to balance them a bit. The things that are happening to you prior to the start of your cycle are (as far as I can tell) hormone related. There may be plenty of ways, such as diet and exercise, that will help your body adjust its own hormone levels...but I would just recommend that if the issue truly is unbalanced hormones, don't rule out the solution that might balance them and solve your problems. Again, I'm not a doctor, not diagnosing, and not even suggesting that some sort of hormones, whether birth control pills or a cream, is going to be the proper solution...I'm just suggesting that you see your doctor and keep an open mind to the possibilities for relief. If you had diabetes and had tried controlling with diet, you wouldn't say, "well, I just really don't want to take insulin."

Meanwhile, you can google all the dietary tips for helping with PMS. There's lots of info out there.

Lisa, you are right. I do need to have a more open mind. I've had bad experiences with hormonal BC. I got pregnant with my twins with one type and a complete lack of desire for physical intimacy with another. Neither of which I'm willing to repeat! Very Happy Plus, several other side effects I could live with. But, I know that they are other types of hormone therapies that might not have the side effects I've experienced. If other solutions don't work, I will talk to my doctor about that when I get the insurance sorted out.

Could you share the website?


Stacy, mom to 12-year-old boy/girl twins and a three-year-old boy.

"Every man's life is a fairy tale written by God's finger." Hans Christian Andersen
Re: PMS [message #818055 is a reply to message #818054 ] Sun, 21 August 2016 13:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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praise2christ wrote on Sat, 20 August 2016 19:18



Could you share the website?



Sorry. Thought I did. Old age! Wink

http://www.johnleemd.com


Blessings,
Lisa R.
Re: PMS [message #818058 is a reply to message #818025 ] Mon, 22 August 2016 10:10 Go to previous message
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Thank you so much for all your help, ladies! I started researching some of the things suggested and I am starting to think I might be in perimenopause. I'm only 36, so this isn't even something that occurred to me before this. But, I have so many of the symptoms it is hard to ignore (really bad PMS, short, irregular cycles, heavy bleeding, short-term memory problems, fatigue, weight gain, mild hot flashes). I will definitely be making an appointment with a gynecologist as soon as we get insurance. I'm hoping that will be in the next couple of months. If not, I might have to look into a local clinic with a sliding scale. Not my first choice, but I definitely want to talk with a doctor.


Stacy, mom to 12-year-old boy/girl twins and a three-year-old boy.

"Every man's life is a fairy tale written by God's finger." Hans Christian Andersen
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