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All night prayer vigils [message #815573] Wed, 20 January 2016 12:33 Go to next message
Tracy in Peru  is currently offline Tracy in Peru
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What are your thoughts on all night prayer vigils?

It is a common thing here. I think it has a lot to do culturally with the inability to "getaway" for work and cost reasons. It seems odd to me, for a time of corporate prayer to be at the expense of sleep.

Now, I have done prayer vigils in the past, where I was assigned an hour slot to pray, and I got up to pray at my appointed time--in my pj's in my own home. This allowed an event to be covered in prayer, or was part of an important decision being made by a committee or church leadership. But this is a small group of six to eight people, co-ed, getting together to stay up all night to pray.

To me, it would seem exhaustion would leave someone (or a group) to be over-emotional and perhaps not as discerning as they should be.

I applaud setting aside a time for a group to get together and pray with no distractions; but the "up all night" things leaves me vaguely ill at ease. But I am not sure if it is my personal preferences, a difference in culture, or something unbiblical.

I would appreciate any input.

edited for clarity....

[Updated on: Wed, 20 January 2016 17:15]


In Him--Tracy
Re: All night prayer vigils [message #815577 is a reply to message #815573 ] Wed, 20 January 2016 13:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I remember, when I was mid-late teens, that our church at the time had an all night prayer vigil. I don't recall what was happening (whether it was a seasonal thing, or if something newsworthy or within the congregation prompted it)...but the doors remained open for 24 hours. While I do recall there was a roster to sign up, so that someone from the church would always be in the sanctuary, that others could come and go as their schedule permitted. There are people like myself, insomniacs, and people like my husband, who works a night shift and keeps to that same schedule on his days off, for whom late night/early morning hours might be preferable.


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Re: All night prayer vigils [message #815582 is a reply to message #815573 ] Wed, 20 January 2016 21:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aside from any scriptural issues, it wouldn't work for me because I would simply fall asleep!

I haven't given it much thought, because it's not really a thing around here. I'm interested in the other responses you may get, because I feel a bit ill-at-ease at the thought of it, too...but like you, I'm not entirely sure why.

Edited to add: Have you been to any to see how it works?

[Updated on: Wed, 20 January 2016 21:17]


Blessings,
Lisa R.
Re: All night prayer vigils [message #815584 is a reply to message #815573 ] Wed, 20 January 2016 21:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tracy - my instinctive response is this (and I hope it's not presumptuous).

I'm wondering if it's the (relative) prominence of vigils within the dominant domination in Peru that's making you uncomfortable? I assume many members of your community have.. converted isn't the right word, but you know what I mean.

I'm wondering if the vigil itself is a cultural practice, but differently to how you see it - it's been a part of their corporate practice, and it carries over, albeit in a different form? Might that be part of the feeling of disquiet?

I have a dear friend who sits a prayer vigil with a group each Easter Saturday night, waiting for Resurrection Sunday.
Re: All night prayer vigils [message #815585 is a reply to message #815584 ] Wed, 20 January 2016 22:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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carolinec wrote on Wed, 20 January 2016 20:55

Tracy - my instinctive response is this (and I hope it's not presumptuous).

I'm wondering if it's the (relative) prominence of vigils within the dominant domination in Peru that's making you uncomfortable? I assume many members of your community have.. converted isn't the right word, but you know what I mean.

I'm wondering if the vigil itself is a cultural practice, but differently to how you see it - it's been a part of their corporate practice, and it carries over, albeit in a different form? Might that be part of the feeling of disquiet?

I have a dear friend who sits a prayer vigil with a group each Easter Saturday night, waiting for Resurrection Sunday.


I have seen some of the prayer vigils, but they are more the situation Jamie described....the church is open during that time and you are free to come and go as you please. While some people may be there the entire time, it was a personal decision and commitment that could be changed.

This is a small group looking to grow closer to each other and strengthen their relationship with Christ. There is a "lock-in" time. They want to be up all night, from 11pm to about 7am--praying together.



In Him--Tracy
Re: All night prayer vigils [message #815586 is a reply to message #815582 ] Wed, 20 January 2016 22:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lisa R. wrote on Wed, 20 January 2016 20:16

Aside from any scriptural issues, it wouldn't work for me because I would simply fall asleep!

I haven't given it much thought, because it's not really a thing around here. I'm interested in the other responses you may get, because I feel a bit ill-at-ease at the thought of it, too...but like you, I'm not entirely sure why.

Edited to add: Have you been to any to see how it works?


I haven't been to one, and couldn't possibly make it without sleep like that. Dh has never wanted to do them "as a church" because he values his sleep too much!

To me, it would seem to heighten emotions and would be very initimate. Both things, I could see being constructive--but also there is a big opportunity for spiritual abuse--unintended or via spiritual attacks.

We have never been one for sleepovers with the kids either. So maybe it is just my usual concerns spilling over. This a group of adults, leaders of the church, and all with a decent foundation.


In Him--Tracy
Re: All night prayer vigils [message #815589 is a reply to message #815585 ] Thu, 21 January 2016 01:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tracy in Peru wrote on Wed, 20 January 2016 21:27

. There is a "lock-in" time.



I get you now. Anything lock in would get my hackles up as well.
Re: All night prayer vigils [message #815590 is a reply to message #815589 ] Thu, 21 January 2016 06:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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carolinec wrote on Thu, 21 January 2016 01:00

Tracy in Peru wrote on Wed, 20 January 2016 21:27

. There is a "lock-in" time.



I get you now. Anything lock in would get my hackles up as well.


I won't get into details, but there is an organization that does something similar. I've never been to one of their retreats or whatever they call them, but I've heard stories of folks getting to one of these events, and deciding it wasn't for them, and being forcibly made to stay (doors physically blocked in such a way that the man had to choose to physically move someone to get by, or choose to stay).

That is the sort of thing that would concern me.

I hesitate to say anything negative about brothers and sisters getting together to commit to prayer. It seems wrong to criticize that, and the whole vigil might be perfectly fine and edifying, and it might indeed bring the group closer and help them to grow spiritually.

But we don't do sleepovers for some of the reasons you're mentioning in your concerns for the vigil. Too easy for inhibitions to drop while exhausted.

If this were going on among folks in my church, I think I might just take a wait and see approach. It might be fine. It might even be good. But the minute I saw any bad fruit coming out of these events, I'd speak out against the practice. (Ten years ago, I'd have advised speaking out anyway, but I'm learning that my ways of seeing things aren't always the absolute best or only way...but I do agree with your red flag assessment).


Blessings,
Lisa R.
Re: All night prayer vigils [message #815618 is a reply to message #815573 ] Fri, 22 January 2016 20:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I dont see the need for it. Couldnt the Lord hear people just as clearly if they each prayed in their own homes?

Do they all work night turn or something,because from a practical standpoint, Im wondering where their productivity would be during the day?(even if they are managers of their homes....who is doing that? How much time does it require to recover from an all nighter?)


Im noticing a trend with myself: Christians ought to be productive. So, no, I dont get it.

I do, however, get the religiosity of it. And perhaps,the control and odd aspect of it.

[Updated on: Fri, 22 January 2016 20:34]


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Re: All night prayer vigils [message #815659 is a reply to message #815573 ] Mon, 25 January 2016 19:29 Go to previous message
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We've done all night prayer vigils during different seasons of church life, and our experience with them has been wonderful..productive, faith building, sweet times of fellowship and prayer.

It's not something that happens all the time; in fact, our church hasn't had one in a long time.

We would NEVER force anyone to stay who wanted to get up to leave, though; that's just wrong, imo.


Grace & Peace,
Diana

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