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Paul [message #810508] Wed, 08 April 2015 00:51 Go to next message
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Did Paul demand his rights under Roman law? Or under in the law? I really don't know the answer and I'm curious.


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Re: Paul [message #810533 is a reply to message #810508 ] Wed, 08 April 2015 13:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Demand? Not so sure.

Acts 16:37-38 "But Paul said unto them, They have beaten us openly uncondemned, being Romans, and have cast us into prison; and now do they thrust us out privily? nay verily; but let them come themselves and fetch us out. And the serjeants told these words unto the magistrates: and they feared, when they heard that they were Romans.


Acts 25:10-11 "Then said Paul, I stand at Caesar's judgment seat, where I ought to be judged: to the Jews have I done no wrong, as thou very well knowest. For if I be an offender, or have committed any thing worthy of death, I refuse not to die: but if there be none of these things whereof these accuse me, no man may deliver me unto them. I appeal unto Caesar."

Acts 28:18-19 "Who, when they had examined me, would have let me go, because there was no cause of death in me. But when the Jews spake against it, I was constrained to appeal unto Caesar; not that I had ought to accuse my nation of.

I don't know that he *demanded* his rights, but he was beaten summarily, without having been tried and sentenced, which, I believe, was okay to do to Jews, but not to Roman citizens. He chose to take his appeal to Caesar, which was his right. He definitely exercised his right to a proper trial.


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Re: Paul [message #810560 is a reply to message #810508 ] Thu, 09 April 2015 21:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Under the Roman law, because he was a Roman citizen.


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Re: Paul [message #810576 is a reply to message #810560 ] Sat, 11 April 2015 02:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Paul [message #810581 is a reply to message #810508 ] Sat, 11 April 2015 09:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just another thought...Jesus pulled the taxes out of the fishes mouth and instructed Peter to "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's," and Paul exercised his rights as a Roman citizen. Romans 13 speaks of submitting to our civil government. The Bible is clear that we are not citizens of this world, but our citizenship is in heaven.

Yet, there seems to be a message running through scripture that we participate in the government where we find ourselves...the Israelites were subject to slavery of governments, Esther worked through the king to save the Jews. Daniel & Peter defied the law where it conflicted with obedience to God. Daniel and Joseph worked with the rulers of their governments.

Not sure what is at the root of your question, but I can't see a place in scripture that instruct us to not be a part of the governmental process where we live.




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Re: Paul [message #810965 is a reply to message #810508 ] Fri, 24 April 2015 00:13 Go to previous message
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~Janice wrote on Tue, 07 April 2015 23:51

Did Paul demand his rights under Roman law? Or under in the law? I really don't know the answer and I'm curious.


Read Acts 25:13ff. Note that Paul didn't have to "demand" his rights under Roman law, but that Festus claimed them for him.


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