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I need advice/brain storming... [message #540405] Wed, 03 June 2009 14:17 Go to next message
blessedwithboys  is currently offline blessedwithboys
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I need to find a "career". I am currently working at a local farm market, transplanting plants or making flower baskets in the greenhouse, planting veggies or flowers in the fields, stocking shelves in the store, Caleb and I have even replaced the points on a plow. I love it, I love being outside, I like the people, I love the versatility, I love that it's very active, etc, etc, but the pay is not something we can live on and it's only seasonal.

I have no skills. I have no clue what I want to do. My boys don't want me to do anything and think they should care for me forever, but I can't saddle them with that. To top it off, I have an excuse for everything.

My best friend is a groomer and I can probably bathe dogs for her. She would pay me well, but I've done it in the past and I really don't like doing it. I may have to rely upon that if I don't figure something else out though. I'm really hoping to find something I can enjoy doing.

I think learning a trade would be good so that I would always be of value, but what trade? All the trades I've considered are typically male jobs and I would be so uncomfortable going to school with a bunch of young men.

I don't like anything in the health field except for nutrition, and who wants a chubby nutritionist?

We have 50+ acres that we could farm, but no equipment to do it with and that's a really hard way to make a living.

I'm getting overwhelmed with what to do and the more time that goes by just adds to the stress.

How do I figure out what to do? Where should I go for direction?


~It is well with my soul...
Re: I need advice/brain storming... [message #540417 is a reply to message #540405 ] Wed, 03 June 2009 14:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Lisa R.  is currently offline Lisa R.
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If there's a local college or tech school, they should have someone who helps folks figure out their direction...a career planning office or something that could give you tests to see what your aptitudes are, and give suggestions. That might be a good place to start.


Blessings,
Lisa R.
Re: I need advice/brain storming... [message #540438 is a reply to message #540405 ] Wed, 03 June 2009 15:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Zanne  is currently offline Zanne
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I'm not sure where exactly in western PA you are, but I know there are a number of colleges in that area.

Have you thought about a position with one of them?

If you love plants, for example, you might be able to find something maintaining landscaping, or indoor displays.

Bookstore and cafeteria jobs may be filled by students, but I imagine there are other entry level positions that they would love to have a responsible adult fill. The biggest plus would be if they offered free tuition to full time employees. You could take a course or two in a field that you are curious about -- maybe even audit one, in addition.

If they offer free tuition to dependents, even better later on! Smile
Re: I need advice/brain storming... [message #540440 is a reply to message #540405 ] Wed, 03 June 2009 15:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
denise d
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I guess looking at health care would be appealing to me. I had a friend, who at age 40 something went back to school to get a physical therapist assistant certification. I believe you can also do this for occupational therapy (which appeals to me more).

Or how about welding or some other cool, "manly" skill that would put you in a great position as a female for employment. I have a secret desire to take up welding and build yard art and furniture and stuff. It just looks fun to me. Can you tell I would probably test out high for ADD? HA!

Tech schools and community colleges around you might have some cool things going on. Landscaping architect (work for or start a landscaping business), interior design (work in a furniture store, etc). I would go get a catalogue from a nearby college,talk to a counselor at the career center (or comparable office), take an aptitude test (you never know!) and GO, girl!

I don't think you are chubby, but I do know a few nutritionists who must do a lot of testing.

[Updated on: Wed, 03 June 2009 15:34]


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Re: I need advice/brain storming... [message #540447 is a reply to message #540405 ] Wed, 03 June 2009 15:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
~Janice  is currently offline ~Janice
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Dawn, since you are very unsure of what you might want to do why don't you start taking some courses (online if you want) through a local community college? If you talk to their advising office they would direct you to courses that - should you ever desire a four year degree - would count towards that. Also, basic courses would give you the minimum requirement for getting into some of the tech degrees.

There are lots of opportunities through community colleges. A few at our cc are (some medical):

Park Ranger Technology
Real Estate
Diagnostic Medical Sonography
Emergency Medical Services
Vascular Technology
Medical Imagining

and much more. I used to think I wasn't interested in any medical stuff but now it's all so specialized that I think it might be fun. For instance when I got my mammogram the lady does those only and has control over her schedule and day. Same with the radiologists. It's pretty neat actually.

Another thing you could do is get on your county's or city's job opportunities website and see what is listed. It might give you a feel for what's actually out there. A government job would be secure and pay good benefits - even though I don't like the idea of a "government job" it would be secure. Confused

Praying for your time of looking into things.

[Updated on: Wed, 03 June 2009 15:53]


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Re: I need advice/brain storming... [message #540511 is a reply to message #540405 ] Wed, 03 June 2009 19:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MicheleB  is currently offline MicheleB
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Dawn,

As you probably already are, I would really make it a matter of prayer. Ask the Lord to bring an enjoyable career right to you.

I worked several years ago in an executive recruitment firm. I knew hardly anything about computers! I knew how to type from high school and that was it.

In a few months time, I had learned a lot of valuable skills on the computer, phone skills, research skills and things that continue to serve me well in many ways.

You know how I got the job? It's almost weird, but I'll tell you... I met the owner's daughter when I was in the hospital for depression. We hit it off and she thought I would be a good addition to the office.

I enjoyed my time there and doubled my salary in about a year!

All that to say, you just really never know how and when God will work on your behalf. So keep your eyes and heart open. I know He has something special for you!! Smile


Michele
Re: I need advice/brain storming... [message #540557 is a reply to message #540405 ] Wed, 03 June 2009 21:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cammie  is currently offline Cammie
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I have been thinking of going back to school at some point (dh says probably, not as we are still paying for my first degree I never used, do to staying home and homeschooling.) I would go to the community college and get a pharmacy tech certificate.

My good friend went back and got some surgery tech thingy and it pays very well. She only works PRN and set her own basic schedule around her girls schooling and when I am available to help watch them.


Cammie
Re: I need advice/brain storming... [message #540650 is a reply to message #540405 ] Thu, 04 June 2009 02:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chellewho  is currently offline chellewho
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I'm not sure what it would involve but could you start a small Christmas tree farm and add to it each year? And still work where you are in the summer?


michelle


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Re: I need advice/brain storming... [message #540724 is a reply to message #540405 ] Thu, 04 June 2009 09:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rosemary-MI  is currently offline Rosemary-MI
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I bought a book for may boys tiltled "Do what you are- discover the perfect career for you." Got it on Amazon cheap. It explains ways to take what you love to do and make a career out of it. Sort of a self evaluation. My dh and I did the quiz they had and it was so accurate about our likes and dislikes we are amazed.

So if you love plants maybe you can start a tree farm. Grow trees for landscapers, greenhouses, etc. Or start a small business where you care for plants in offices. Or both! Laughing

I think if you do what you love you will love what you do and God will make it work out.

Rosemary


I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it!
Re: I need advice/brain storming... [message #540745 is a reply to message #540405 ] Thu, 04 June 2009 10:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Leigh  is currently offline Leigh
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Our horticulture department is about 40% women.

Investigate the hospitality industry. There is a degree for travel and tourism, but frankly the hospitality industry hires people in ever field. Seriously. We use electricians, entertainers, painters, food & beverage, housekeeping, valet parking, bell services, retail. Some need training and experience, but most do not.


Leigh
Tennessee

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

~~Benjamin Franklin

Re: I need advice/brain storming... [message #540749 is a reply to message #540405 ] Thu, 04 June 2009 10:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Robin H.  is currently offline Robin H.
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The ladies have given you very good advice. I was just thinking aloud . . .

Are your boys interested in farming? Is there a way they could get the skills and guidance? Is there a farmer you could pair up with or get advice from? Could you get into specialty farming? Something like herbs, organic meat, flower farming, etc.? I was just thinking that these might be ways to work together. Y'all sound like you already do so well at that.

Did your husband have any thoughts on this kind of thing? I know his passing was so unexpected and untimely but just wondering what he had envisioned for your family and your boys.

Praying for you, Dawn, that God would just bring something very, very obvious and good to you, that He would bless you and yours abundantly.
Robin H.
Re: I need advice/brain storming... [message #540776 is a reply to message #540405 ] Thu, 04 June 2009 11:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Amy  is currently offline Amy
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Dave Ramsey suggests a book called "48 Days To The Work You Love", by Dan Miller, and he has another book called, "No More Mondays". We read them when my husband was laid off in Jan. He is working for himself as a consultant and we are paying all of our bills with out changing our lifestyle very much.

He reminds us that when we do something we are passionate about we most often make more money, because we pour our heart into it.

It is a quick read and was very helpful to us.


Amy
Re: I need advice/brain storming... [message #540949 is a reply to message #540776 ] Thu, 04 June 2009 21:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tamara Eaton
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Hi Dawn,

You've gotten some great suggestions! I second the two book recommendations --Do What You Are and also the Dan Miller book.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who laughed when I saw your line about having no skills directly after the paragraph describing your current job! Dear friend you have LOADS of skills! I know from what you've shared with us that you are full of wisdom and talents --gifts from God.

There are probably other good books in your public library that would help you sort out the fields you'd be most interested in and give you more ideas, too.

My sister in-law who was widowed a few years ago went back to school about a year ago and is doing so well. (I don't think school was ever her thing before now. Wink ) She joked about being the oldest in her classes, but everyone loves her and she has some hilarious stories of her adventures. (Her four kids are ages 16-21 now and doing well --her oldest two are in college, too, and her third just graduated high school.)

I am so thankful for the Lord's blessings and provision for her and her kids and for you and your kids, too!

I am praying for the Lord's wisdom and provision for you!

With love and hugs,
Tamara


Blessings,
Tamara

"There is always enough time to do the will of God. Don't Waste Your Life!"
Re: I need advice/brain storming... [message #540973 is a reply to message #540405 ] Thu, 04 June 2009 22:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
blessedwithboys  is currently offline blessedwithboys
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Wow, you were all busy giving me some great ideas. I'll be ordering the books. Both books sound like great tools for my boys too.

Our biggest problem with farming this land is the lack of water. We're on our second well and my parents are on their second well. We have some springs on the farm, but nothing you can count on in a dry spell. We maybe be able to do some drought resistant crops though. There must be a way to have this pay for itself somehow.

I see that the community college had classes earlier this year for career assessment, but I couldn't find any plans for more classes for the fall. I'm going to contact them and get the scoop on when they'll be doing that again. It would be nice to learn some skills that I could take with me wherever I go.

You've given me really interesting ideas. I know there's so much out there, but I've been drawing a blank when I think on it. Thank you all so much! I knew this was the best place to come for advice!

Your prayers mean the world to me. I'll be mulling all of this over again when I'm not quite so tired.

It's been a long day...
Good night and bless you all,
Dawn

Edited to ask: Amazon has "48 days..." in 2 different titles. One with "An Interactive Study" and one without. They also have a seperate workbook. Any idea which would be better to get?

[Updated on: Thu, 04 June 2009 22:50]


~It is well with my soul...
Re: I need advice/brain storming... [message #541005 is a reply to message #540405 ] Fri, 05 June 2009 05:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Laura in VA  is currently offline Laura in VA
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Humpf! Wink

How about just moving to VA and holding a baby??? Very Happy She's going thru a clingy phase..and I KNOW you are qualified for that! Very Happy Very Happy She doesn't pay alot...but the wet slobbery kisses and smiles are well worth it! Very Happy

I go against the grain and tend to look at things other than college. Dallas wanting to go to cosmatology school for example...I think the class is one year full time and that's it! The little girl working in the Walmart salon just out of highschool was making over $30k to start...seemed like a good salary for the amount of education iykwim Wink

And think about it...do you really need/want a "career"...or do you just need a "job"...totally different in my opinion. I'm good with just a job. I worked for Target when we lived up in MD...unloading the trucks and stocking from 4am till 10ish. I loved it!! Gave me the rest of my day, paid more than minimum wage...and Target was a great company to work for...very understanding of a mom with a little one Smile

Someday I think I may like to work for Olan Mills...maybe get back some of the money I've paid to them over the years Wink But I love pictures, I love photography...and I think I'd like to be able to help parents and families capture those moments. No great training required there...but I could see myself being happy to go to work Smile

And you know me Wink I second Christmas tree farming! Very Happy Pines are sturdier...and you get to write off the use of the land all those years while they're growing Wink When they finally start to come in it's seasonal work and you and the boys can just set yourself up a little stand Smile If it's enough to pay a few bills that's a good thing Smile

So you'll be here to hold this baby when? Wink Very Happy Laughing


So now the Lord says, "Stop right where you are! Look for the old, godly way; and walk in it. Travel its path and you will find rest for your souls. ~Jer 6:16

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Re: I need advice/brain storming... [message #541088 is a reply to message #540973 ] Fri, 05 June 2009 11:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tamara Eaton
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blessedwithboys wrote on Thu, 04 June 2009 21:48



Edited to ask: Amazon has "48 days..." in 2 different titles. One with "An Interactive Study" and one without. They also have a seperate workbook. Any idea which would be better to get?


I just read the basic one without the study and my guess is as a homeschooling mom (and with homeschooled boys) you don't need the one with the study included (unless it's cheaper, of course!) I noticed on Amazon they have a good price on a used hardback edition:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0805431888/ref=olp_product_ details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller=

And you could probably get it from your public library for free and see if it's something you want to purchase or not! Smile

Edited to say: I just read this on a review for the interactive book version from a person who had purchased both the regular book and the interactive version and said she shouldn't have gotten both:
Quote:

"If you're a better audio learner or have limited time or attention deficit issues, this is an excellent product with the cds and workbook. It's broken down well, clear, concise.

But it's the same as the book, and I didn't need the reinforcement of the principles."

[Updated on: Fri, 05 June 2009 11:18]


Blessings,
Tamara

"There is always enough time to do the will of God. Don't Waste Your Life!"
Re: I need advice/brain storming... [message #541212 is a reply to message #541088 ] Fri, 05 June 2009 15:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
blessedwithboys  is currently offline blessedwithboys
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Thanks, Tamara, I ordered the "plain" version. That review was very helpful.

Laura, I will come and hold Dani for free. I'm not very good at negotiations, am I?
The only reason I'm looking at a "career" is that I'd like to have a skill that can't be taken from me, kwim? If I picked the right skill, I should always be needed.

Whatever I do, I think that the Christmas tree farming is a good idea. For now, the boys and I are going to plant some zucchini and sell it to the farm market that we work for.

There are several things on this thread that I want to look into when I get the time.

Gotta run.


~It is well with my soul...
Re: I need advice/brain storming... [message #541226 is a reply to message #540405 ] Fri, 05 June 2009 16:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
PamE
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Dawn, I wonder if you could rent out parts of your land? We have fields on either side of the road not too far from here that are filled with horses and cattle. I would think they would require less water than crops but really am clueless there. Embarassed Would there be a market in your area for fresh eggs and milk along with the produce that you are selling? It seems like chickens/eggs would be easier to deal with than all that would probably be required to run even a small dairy enterprise. Confused What about working in a flower shop? Is there a flower market anywhere near you? This isn't a career, but my mom has often lamented the fact that our local store's garden departments don't take good care of their plants and must lose quite a bit of money because of that. She's thought about talking to the managers to see if they'd hire her to care for the plants.

Just a few thoughts swimming 'round in my head, fwiw. Smile


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Re: I need advice/brain storming... [message #541465 is a reply to message #540405 ] Sat, 06 June 2009 13:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Another thing on the farming. You can grow speciality crops. Weird stuff that most farms do not grow. We have a local farmer that turned his grain farm into one that grows just bird seed. He says he does much better.

If you have local restaurants that have a chef, ask them if they are looking for any speciality foods you could grow for them. Some like the different lettuces, colored peppers and herbs etc.

Rosemary


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Re: I need advice/brain storming... [message #543302 is a reply to message #541465 ] Sun, 14 June 2009 01:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The specialty crop is a great idea. The area I grew up had raspberry and strawberry farms. Those have now been replaced with lavendar farms...and wineries, both of which bring in lots of money.

The area I live in now in Alaska is developing peony farms. They grow great in this area and blossom when the markets in the lower 48 are passed. They will be suppling florists in the rest of the country.


I know that everything God does will endure forever; nothing can be added to it and nothing taken from it. God does it so that men will revere him.
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Re: I need advice/brain storming... [message #543338 is a reply to message #543302 ] Sun, 14 June 2009 12:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
blessedwithboys  is currently offline blessedwithboys
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Just a small update and to respond to the new posts...I've ordered the recommended books and they are on their way. Yesterday my dsis and I went to her sil's house so she could tell me all about a program that is put out by a local community college.

The program is for single moms and displaced homemakers. It's all about career assessment and finding a job or career. My dsis said that she would go with me so that she'll have an idea of what she should do when her boys are older.

I'm going to email the career counselor and inquire about this fall's program, which is dependant upon grants that the college is waiting on.

As for the farming ideas. They are great ideas and would work well for our family, especially because I am getting such vehement opposition from the boys regarding getting a job.

I would also love free-range chicken egg farming. Honestly, I'm just afraid to try any of these things. They are sink or swim jobs with little security and I don't have much faith in myself.

Maybe there is a way to incorporate the specialized crops and the chickens, idk. I'll start looking into the specialized crop farming.


~It is well with my soul...
Re: I need advice/brain storming... [message #543386 is a reply to message #543338 ] Sun, 14 June 2009 14:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tracy in Peru  is currently offline Tracy in Peru
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Dawn, you need a specialty crop thate requires chicken fertilizer!


In Him--Tracy
Re: I need advice/brain storming... [message #543392 is a reply to message #543386 ] Sun, 14 June 2009 14:27 Go to previous message
PamE
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Tracy in Peru wrote on Sun, 14 June 2009 11:04

Dawn, you need a specialty crop thate requires chicken fertilizer!


There ya go! Very Happy


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