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This is my first year of Math-U-See with my 9th grader. [message #452645 is a reply to message #452603 ] Wed, 17 September 2008 19:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I actually wish I had used Math-U-See earlier for him. My oldest 2 and my youngest haven't needed the extra help like he has. We do the videos before the lessons, which is what makes the program worth it, in my opinion. (A few minutes of Steve Demme explaining the lessons for the week.) We never considered getting any manipulatives. He uses them on the video to illustrate, but unless your family feels that your child really needs the extra reinforcement, they may not be necessary.


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Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #452740 is a reply to message #125479 ] Wed, 17 September 2008 23:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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May I just say I have an 11 year old and Teaching Textbooks 6 has been a God-send. (You can take a placement test on their website). We were behind and it starts the first lessons by teaching place value. I finally feel like I am getting somewhere with math for our son !!!


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Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #452766 is a reply to message #198393 ] Thu, 18 September 2008 00:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When *I* learned "long division" my dad had a fit! He used math in his work and said the way we learned it was confusing and stupid. I looked up "long division" and it seems that it's just "regular" division? OUR long division used guesstimates and rounding.

How do the books teach it now? (Just curious.)
Math-u-see [message #458122 is a reply to message #125479 ] Wed, 01 October 2008 18:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We have had a struggle for years with math. My son is now 13 and I switched to MUS. I bought a book lower then where he should because he needed the review before we moved on. Actually, I am discerning that he really never understood the concepts, he just did them. That is why he is forgetting them.

I agonized about this all summer, as we have tried 2 other curriculums. I am seeing slow but sure progress with MUS already. Also, I read in "Bringing up Boys' that most boys/men are visual learners. We watch the DVD together, Mr. Demme, is so good on the video, making the concept visually quick and easy. (I have even learned a couple tricks that I was never taught!!!!)
Re: Math-u-see [message #468495 is a reply to message #458122 ] Tue, 28 October 2008 10:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #480326 is a reply to message #452603 ] Sat, 29 November 2008 08:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #505471 is a reply to message #452603 ] Tue, 10 February 2009 21:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #531560 is a reply to message #452603 ] Thu, 07 May 2009 13:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #531596 is a reply to message #125479 ] Thu, 07 May 2009 14:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I cannot sing the praises of Aleks.com enough. Right now they are running a one month free special you might like to check out.


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Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #565035 is a reply to message #531596 ] Fri, 28 August 2009 17:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #573621 is a reply to message #565035 ] Fri, 25 September 2009 22:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #577863 is a reply to message #573621 ] Tue, 13 October 2009 23:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #600331 is a reply to message #452603 ] Tue, 05 January 2010 14:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #600866 is a reply to message #600331 ] Thu, 07 January 2010 06:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So, (Sherry and others), would you suggest putting Saxon aside for awhile and making sure the place value concept and addition/subtraction/multiplication/division facts are memorized?

What is bump? (is that the fist thing?) Smile
Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #600930 is a reply to message #600866 ] Thu, 07 January 2010 10:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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<bump> is just a volleyball term Smile...it's like I want to write something, to get the thread back up to the top of the thread list...so I write "bump" like it's a volleyball Wink

You could just go through that list slowly, a few problems every day...or you could take a day or two or an hour or two and go through it quickly.


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Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #608322 is a reply to message #600930 ] Tue, 02 February 2010 10:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #608331 is a reply to message #125479 ] Tue, 02 February 2010 11:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My son went up 15 points the year we began using Time4Learning for math. I think it was because he is such a visual learner and he just "gets" things better when they are presented in an interactive, multimedia way. It was amazing to see how he went from a kid who struggled with the simplest of math concepts to a kid who is incredibly confident in math now. We've used T4L for three years now.

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Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #617495 is a reply to message #608331 ] Thu, 18 March 2010 11:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #617860 is a reply to message #617495 ] Sat, 20 March 2010 05:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I used Rod and staff math through 6th grade for my oldest 2, and they did fine with it. Then for the next 2, I needed a change of curriculum. I had my oldest with SAxon for 7th (he started in 87), and it went so well, I thought I'd switch to Saxon for the younger 2. Well, one of them really likes Saxon better than Rod and Staff, and the other one got frustrated with it all year long. Two weeks ago, I finally saw that this wasn't going to work, and we made a joint decision to start over in the Rod and STaff math for 4th grade (only for the one that was having problems.) Did we start at the beginning? Yes, and no. I knew he had learned some of the things from Saxon, so he does the chapter reviews. What he gets wrong on chapter review, I critique this way. If he totally missed how to work the problem, we go over that lesson or lessons in that chapter. To make sure he understood, then I give him the chapter test. If his problem was just a stupid or careless mistake, then we go on to the next chapter. We are currently on Chapter 6. We are doing the whole chapter, as it is on fractions, and they were giving him fits in Saxon. I watched a dvd on math u see, and had considered doing that, but Rod and staff is very strong program, I can add the blocks to teach the concepts if I feel it is needed. Doing this "redo" of the math, and yes, even starting over, has made our lives 300% better! He usually gets 2-4 problems wrong now, where before more than 50% of what he did was wrong, and it was sooooo frustrating! I can't stress how important it is to know the basic facts, though (addition, sub, mult, div. to 12s.) Never again will I change a curriculum that has worked well for us, just because I want to look at something different!
Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #618611 is a reply to message #125479 ] Wed, 24 March 2010 22:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I hope this is allowed and that it doesn't offend anyone too much, but I think Saxon is a terrible curriculum. I've never seen anyone succeed with it past about 8/7, and kids spend literally hours per day on each lesson. It introduces new difficulties several lessons later with no explanation, and the child never had opportunity to master the simple problems in the first place. It is common to introduce up to 6 new concepts per lesson. A typical error rate seems to be about 35-50%, even for students who are good at math. What a discouragement!

Unfortunately, I haven't found a math curriculum I'm completely happy with for algebra and up. Teaching Textbooks is better than Saxon, but it has the same format; it just doesn't introduce quite so many new concepts at once. Math U See is neither thorough nor challenging for college prep math. A Beka is incredibly disorganized. Public school texts are prohibitively expensive by the time you buy the teacher materials. Jacobs seems like a possiblity, but when I look through the text I'm just not comfortable with it. Bob Jones is what I currently settle for, but I don't feel it has enough relevant word problems.

Sheri, it seems you may have a math background. What do like for algebra - precal?


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Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #618615 is a reply to message #618611 ] Wed, 24 March 2010 23:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I dunno....my math whiz went to public school and went up to calculus doing public school textbooks; ended up majoring in film editing (which, weirdly, has a lot of conversion math -- the whole digital side).

Next one down finished geometry and Algebra II and loved Math-U-See.

Next one down goes out to homeschool teachers - they use a lot of Saxon, but this one has struggled more with math than anything else. She's gone through the equivalent of Trig and now is doing review math for SAT rather than go to calculus which she is not interested in.

Next one down loves Math-U-See and is another math whiz...but we've never gone father than Algebra II in Math-U-See yet, so I can't speak to higher levels.

My public high school had us do five years of math in four; [it's now eight courses in four years]. I did a bit of math in engineering school -- it was a repeat of high school, basically.

And *then* I started homeschooling and had to figure out how to explain stuff to all these varying kids...so I actually had to learn the why and patterns and all to everything.

Homeschooling helped me with math waaaay more than it helped the kids <grin>

[Updated on: Thu, 25 March 2010 08:41]


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Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #618619 is a reply to message #125479 ] Wed, 24 March 2010 23:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Awww, I was hoping you'd have the magic answer I've been looking for. Confused


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Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #640559 is a reply to message #618619 ] Thu, 15 July 2010 19:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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<bumping it up again for a question about long division>


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Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #675508 is a reply to message #640559 ] Fri, 07 January 2011 12:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #678293 is a reply to message #125479 ] Thu, 20 January 2011 19:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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wow. thanks for the thread. I think I could have written many of the woes that Deanna first expressed.

thanks Sherry and everyone for your input.

I am going to bookmark this thread so that I can read over it and take notes.


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Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #678573 is a reply to message #678293 ] Fri, 21 January 2011 23:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I borrowed the ideas from Steve Demme and others because my own kids had similar problems. Don't despair!!


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Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #711332 is a reply to message #678573 ] Sun, 07 August 2011 08:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #712903 is a reply to message #452603 ] Thu, 18 August 2011 12:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #762886 is a reply to message #452603 ] Thu, 27 September 2012 14:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #765140 is a reply to message #452603 ] Thu, 25 October 2012 19:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #770113 is a reply to message #765140 ] Tue, 01 January 2013 21:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bumpity Bump!


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Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #775693 is a reply to message #770113 ] Mon, 25 March 2013 00:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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BUMP!


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Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #775993 is a reply to message #775693 ] Thu, 28 March 2013 17:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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<grin>


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Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #775999 is a reply to message #125479 ] Fri, 29 March 2013 00:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I wish this was a sticky!


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Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #780258 is a reply to message #125479 ] Tue, 04 June 2013 09:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I know a few home school mothers who have raved about Aleks math. I haven't tried it, but my junior HS dd just began and intro to Algebra course at the local jr college. This is also the program that they use. She is dyslexic. She is really enjoying it so far and it is reaching her. We have been through a lot of different programs.

http://www.aleks.com/k12
Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #787337 is a reply to message #780258 ] Mon, 30 September 2013 20:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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BUMP


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Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #787339 is a reply to message #787337 ] Mon, 30 September 2013 20:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tamara,

Have you considered making this a "sticky?" Smile


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Re: How to get ds up to grade level in math? [message #808092 is a reply to message #608322 ] Fri, 09 January 2015 11:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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