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Kindergarten starts in a couple of weeks [message #821003] Fri, 29 December 2017 21:33 Go to next message
Jamie
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I've read an online article put out earlier in the year addressing "What a child needs to know before Kindergarten." The presumed audience were parents readying their child for public school in the fall. I believe there were about 75 things ranging from social skills, small motor skills and alpha/letters. Jonah is up there with about 60 of the items. We slowed on the letter work because he was so on fire and much more willing to learn about other things. I know we aren't to compare one kid for another, and I took this slower path (those philosophies that said much of the academics can wait until a child is six).

He has trouble with bdpq and struggles with t appearing different in books but no issue with the difference of the printed letter a. He knows the alphabet by heart, and can remember all the short consonant and verb sounds. He's successful at stringing together three letter words that end with -at, but we haven't quite attempted to cross over into anything else.

I was/am fine with it, but there were a number of PS kindergarten teachers lamenting the fact that a number of these new children had skipped Pre-K and were coming to them without the ability to read. I remember Jonah at two-years of age had peers that knew the alphabet then and could identify letter names. My own grandson can count higher than my son could at that age.

We opted to work through the summer so we could take most of October and all of Nov / Dec off and focus on holiday activities and stories. Our first "official" school year begins in a couple of weeks. After reading the article, I thought to myself how it might be a better idea to fully concentrate only on letter work / phonics and number work the first month or two, allowing his natural interests to be fed "after school" though he'd still continue to benefit from the learning.

My MIL gifted us with a week's long vacation that must be taken in January (February at the latest). It's very inopportune, to interrupt the schooling (literally, it will be a chock-full vacation and I don't see grappling school work at the same time). It's only a week, however, and if we're strictly keeping to letter work and number work I think I could do well with testing his studies with "in the field" quizzes (asking him to identify letters, guess words on signs, count items, etc).


Peace
Re: Kindergarten starts in a couple of weeks [message #821006 is a reply to message #821003 ] Sat, 30 December 2017 11:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
elliemaejune  is currently offline elliemaejune
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Jamie wrote on Fri, 29 December 2017 20:33

I've read an online article put out earlier in the year addressing "What a child needs to know before Kindergarten." The presumed audience were parents readying their child for public school in the fall. I believe there were about 75 things ranging from social skills, small motor skills and alpha/letters. Jonah is up there with about 60 of the items. We slowed on the letter work because he was so on fire and much more willing to learn about other things. I know we aren't to compare one kid for another, and I took this slower path (those philosophies that said much of the academics can wait until a child is six).

He has trouble with bdpq and struggles with t appearing different in books but no issue with the difference of the printed letter a. He knows the alphabet by heart, and can remember all the short consonant and verb sounds. He's successful at stringing together three letter words that end with -at, but we haven't quite attempted to cross over into anything else.

I was/am fine with it, but there were a number of PS kindergarten teachers lamenting the fact that a number of these new children had skipped Pre-K and were coming to them without the ability to read. I remember Jonah at two-years of age had peers that knew the alphabet then and could identify letter names. My own grandson can count higher than my son could at that age.

We opted to work through the summer so we could take most of October and all of Nov / Dec off and focus on holiday activities and stories. Our first "official" school year begins in a couple of weeks. After reading the article, I thought to myself how it might be a better idea to fully concentrate only on letter work / phonics and number work the first month or two, allowing his natural interests to be fed "after school" though he'd still continue to benefit from the learning.

My MIL gifted us with a week's long vacation that must be taken in January (February at the latest). It's very inopportune, to interrupt the schooling (literally, it will be a chock-full vacation and I don't see grappling school work at the same time). It's only a week, however, and if we're strictly keeping to letter work and number work I think I could do well with testing his studies with "in the field" quizzes (asking him to identify letters, guess words on signs, count items, etc).



So, what is your question?

IMHO, (1) homeschooled children don't start kindergarten (or any other "grade"). They learn all the time; "starting kindergarten" is a campus school thing and has nothing to do with homeschooling. (2) "Waiting" until a child is six to purposefully teach him to read is not "delaying." Eight or nine or 10 is "delaying."

I see no reason on this earth why you shouldn't take that vacation, or why you should do any sort of in the field quizzing or anything. Goodness. Y'all should enjoy the vacation, and continue formal instruction when you get home.


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Re: Kindergarten starts in a couple of weeks [message #821011 is a reply to message #821006 ] Sun, 31 December 2017 15:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie
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No real question, just kinda marking where we are and some thoughts I have about how times have changed in the PS world that I'm aware and how different kids learn at different paces and that there's no real problem with that. Pondering about the upcoming vacation and how we are adjusting for it, but more that I am trying to adjust my own thinking to embrace the benefits of homeschooling. My old nature feels very rigid to starting when I said I would, when really, it's only going to be a couple weeks into the school year and won't lose us ground. I shared the teachers' comment section with a woman I know up north who has written material on homeschooling and tours HS conventions in her region. She laughed and said when she first entered Kindergarten, her mother was so proud and let the teacher know that the child already knew how to read. The teacher exclaimed, "Great, now what am I going to teach her?" Completely flip of the modern day set.

As for grades, they'll all blend eventually and won't matter. I still live in a world where this particular age range is referenced quite a bit. It's no different than saying toddlers or preschoolers (even if they aren't in school). It is handy, too, when trying to shop for something near his present range, and when having conversations with people online to let them know I'm not speaking about a much older child. So many people have asked Jonah if he's in Kindergarten that he finally asked me about it. Here at home we only referenced "school" as Paleontology School (our homeschool), Sunday School, Tuesday School (a mother's bible study where homeschool children are given craft projects and more Sunday School type lessons), and Thursday School (Tinkergarten and Trail Life day). For ease of conversation on the play ground, he knows what they are talking about now, and visa versa. For our records, last year we didn't have to register with our state/county and called it Year 0 (after Ambleside inspiration) and for our documentation going forward, we'll do the same except for this inaugural, milestone year.

I was hoping other mothers and grandmother's might share their musings...we had a small collection of babies born about the same time as my Jonah and hoped they were still around and probably were kicking into some pretty interesting things themselves.


Peace
Re: Kindergarten starts in a couple of weeks [message #821035 is a reply to message #821003 ] Wed, 03 January 2018 09:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My Jack is a little younger than Jonah, but I can share my thoughts that I have had for him. We are currently doing nothing formal with him. He attends co-op with us and has some classes there (ABC's and 123's, Bible Crafts, Sign Language, Before Five in a Row, and Unit Studies). These classes are fun classes for him and never feel like work.

At home, we play some games. He has lots of letter, number, and sight-word puzzles and we read together a lot. He also has some educational apps on his tablet. His favorite thing to do is to type on the computer. He will try to sound out a word and type it or ask me to type something so he can read it. I have considered getting him a workbook to use while the older kids are doing school, but only because I think he would enjoy it. There would be no pressure at all.

Jack does know all his letters and can read CVC words, but that is because he really enjoys it. That is where his passion lies. He couldn't tell you a thing about dinosaurs!

When I look at the changes in PS in regards to how much kids are pushed at earlier ages, all I see is a generation of kids who will have no love of learning. I firmly believe that the best practices for early education (up until about 6) are to instill a love of learning. This would include encouraging them to pursue their interests. At around six years of age, I would start to add a little formal instruction, but still keep it very fun and light. Reading can be taught as a joyous thing, not a chore. "Look at this book about _____! Wouldn't it be so much fun if you could read that?"

I have read several studies that show that some children (especially boys) do not have brains that have developed enough to be able to read well until age eight. If we push them before they are developmentally ready, all we do is frustrate them and cause them to hate reading. So, I am a strong proponent of individualized education.

I am also a fan of fitting school into life. In your shoes, I wouldn't hesitate to take that vacation. I also wouldn't worry about taking a week off from learning his letters and numbers. One week is not enough time for him to really forget what you have worked on and he'll be able to pick right back up after you get back.

I would also caution you against setting a schedule of when each letter/number must be learned and being rigid with it. I am not sure you would, but I wanted to mention it just in case. If the goal is mastery, moving on to the next letter just for the sake of sticking to a schedule could result in him forgetting one that he hasn't mastered, yet.


Stacy, mom to 12-year-old boy/girl twins and a three-year-old boy.

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Re: Kindergarten starts in a couple of weeks [message #821243 is a reply to message #821003 ] Fri, 02 February 2018 10:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Take the vacation and take a lot of pictures. Take pictures of numbers and letters and animals etc. Use them after you get back. Jonah can remember the places and associate the use of the letters and numbers in the world. You can make a book out of them too.

Our school was always interrupted with life and we worked it in. When they were young we didn't stop for the summer just kept going.

~Rosemary

PS. I think it's amazing what "you need to know" before Kindergarten now. When my grandmother was little she learned her alphabet from her grandfather and they were very angry that she knew it before she was 5.


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Re: Kindergarten starts in a couple of weeks [message #821245 is a reply to message #821243 ] Fri, 02 February 2018 22:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Little b, little d has the hand trick to help. Reach out your hands in front of you, touching your thumbs to your palms. If he knows his left from right, and not all kids do, you have them start on the left and recite initially: a B (left hand), c, D (right hand)....


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Re: Kindergarten starts in a couple of weeks [message #821246 is a reply to message #821003 ] Sat, 03 February 2018 19:49 Go to previous message
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Or, the bat hits the ball (B)
the dog chases the stick (D)


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