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What do you do if... [message #821124] Tue, 16 January 2018 15:38 Go to next message
Rosemary-MI  is currently offline Rosemary-MI
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you feel your church is dying a slow death? We only have about 26 people coming these past few weeks. Some has to do with illness but my son, (every the numbers lover), figured out we only have 3% of our total congregation that is under the age of 40. The majority are 60+.

I joined a ministry outside of my church this last October. It is full of people from all the area churches. They are all losing people except two. I looked that the two that were thriving. I see trouble in some of the things they allow. The music leader at one place lives with his girlfriend. The other believes some weird stuff do whatever you want as long as you believe in Christ you're OK.

Our church is dying. There is no growth, no plan, no nothing. I am sad about this but don't know what to do. Is there anything that can be done?

~Rosemary


I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it!
Re: What do you do if... [message #821126 is a reply to message #821124 ] Tue, 16 January 2018 17:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tracy in Peru  is currently offline Tracy in Peru
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It is a ministry to stay with a church and shut the doors. As you pray for your church and your church leadership, be sure to ask if you are to leave or stay. If you are called to stay, know that you can affect great change for the kingdom by your attitude and how you conduct yourself. It doesnt' have to be "we are dying", but "God is doing a new thing and we don't know what it is...yet"


In Him--Tracy
Re: What do you do if... [message #821127 is a reply to message #821124 ] Tue, 16 January 2018 19:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Leigh  is currently offline Leigh
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How do you feel about your church and what it teaches? Do you have an opportunity to invite more people? Is there a sister congregation in the area that can join forces with your church?

Just some thoughts?


Leigh
Tennessee

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

~~Benjamin Franklin

Re: What do you do if... [message #821132 is a reply to message #821124 ] Wed, 17 January 2018 09:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rosemary-MI  is currently offline Rosemary-MI
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Our pastor is a marvelous teacher but a horrible leader. Sermons are straight from the bible as he does a book straight through and sometimes it takes months and months before we finish one. It is very interesting and we dig deep but that is where it ends. I see a lot of study but no implementation, which seems OK for most of the people.

It may be I just don't see what others are doing. Just seems like we are disconnected in some way.

We have a annual meeting coming up to discuss the direction we plan to take in the next year. We do this every year and they have somewhat of a plan. I would like to ask questions that get people thinking and not be judgemental or condescending, which I sometimes come across as. What would be good questions to ask?

~Rosemary


I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it!
Re: What do you do if... [message #821152 is a reply to message #821132 ] Thu, 18 January 2018 13:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Lisa R.  is currently offline Lisa R.
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Has anyone really looked at the numbers? Does the leadership really realize where things are headed? When we joined this church, it was mostly older people, but we are now bringing in younger families (which brings a new sort of crisis).

I'd probably ask the leadership if the plan is to simply let the church fade away (Tracy's comments are so true...it may be that this church is ready to fold in a few years). If so, then you can choose whether to stay and lay it to rest one day, or whether you need to move on just now.

If the leadership would prefer to resurrect the church, do you have any ideas of how to draw in younger folks? Would drawing in younger folks require the church to change too much for the older folks to handle? (Old hymns, which I love, and traditions of the elderly may not attract younger families...and you may have a crisis trying to get the older ones to change).

The things to decide are whether the church wants to live or die, and then, how?


Blessings,
Lisa R.
Re: What do you do if... [message #821157 is a reply to message #821124 ] Fri, 19 January 2018 09:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
praise2christ  is currently offline praise2christ
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I don't have a ton of advice, but I can tell you that it is possible to recover. My church was down to about 40 members and we went years without a pastor. This was a combination of men being afraid to come to such a struggling church and us not being willing to compromise on finding someone who really preached God's word. After years of praying, we finally found the right man and, over the last 15 years, we have grown to close to 300 members which required us to build a new building.

The strange thing is, even while we lost members who felt the need to move on, we still gained a few members during this time. Although we only had visiting preachers or men from the church who would teach, God brought people to us that were desperate to hear His Word.

However, there were some differences. We had a wide variety of ages. I was the only high-schooler, but there were kids, young adults, middle-aged couples, and elderly people. Everyone had a place and everyone worked. No one sat and soaked. Even during the years without a pastor, we still did a lot of ministry both in the church and in the community. We felt called by God to keep the doors open and to wait on him. But, we never stopped working while we waited. We still had VBS and a harvest festival every year, went to the nursing home, had a TV ministry, tons of fellowships, and other things.

I really believe that having a hope (and a plan) for the future of the church is vital. Otherwise, it will just die. I'm praying for your church Rosemary. It is so sad to see Bible-preaching church's dying while feel-good churches thrive.


Stacy, mom to 12-year-old boy/girl twins and a three-year-old boy.

"Every man's life is a fairy tale written by God's finger." Hans Christian Andersen
Re: What do you do if... [message #821161 is a reply to message #821132 ] Fri, 19 January 2018 13:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rosemary-MI wrote on Wed, 17 January 2018 08:58

Our pastor is a marvelous teacher but a horrible leader. Sermons are straight from the bible as he does a book straight through and sometimes it takes months and months before we finish one. It is very interesting and we dig deep but that is where it ends. I see a lot of study but no implementation, which seems OK for most of the people.

It may be I just don't see what others are doing. Just seems like we are disconnected in some way.

We have a annual meeting coming up to discuss the direction we plan to take in the next year. We do this every year and they have somewhat of a plan. I would like to ask questions that get people thinking and not be judgemental or condescending, which I sometimes come across as. What would be good questions to ask?

~Rosemary

What kind of "implementation" do you think there should be? If he's teaching from the Bible and you're listening and receiving, shouldn't "implementation" be your own responsibility?


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Re: What do you do if... [message #821165 is a reply to message #821161 ] Sat, 20 January 2018 15:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rosemary-MI  is currently offline Rosemary-MI
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I do go out into the community and use what I've learned. There may be others who do too I guess I'm just not hearing about it. So maybe that's a bad thing on my part.


I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it!
Re: What do you do if... [message #821167 is a reply to message #821165 ] Sun, 21 January 2018 17:14 Go to previous message
elliemaejune  is currently offline elliemaejune
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Rosemary-MI wrote on Sat, 20 January 2018 14:33

I do go out into the community and use what I've learned. There may be others who do too I guess I'm just not hearing about it. So maybe that's a bad thing on my part.




What would hearing about it do? Why do you need to hear about what others are doing? Why do others need to hear about what you're doing?


Born again since 1974
Married to Mr. Ellie for over 30 years
Mom to 2 amazing grown-up dds and 2 dsil
Grandmother to 1 beautiful baby boy

A kitten dies every time you use an apostrophe to pluralize.
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