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Covenant Sacrifice & the Cross [message #820222] Sun, 23 July 2017 11:57 Go to next message
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Couple of questions from a Sunday school class this week - the denomination is very foreign to me, but popular here in the states. This was not from a pulpit, just the person put over a group for women's studies.

(I) The term 'lovingkindness' found in the Old Testament....the claim is that 'lovingkindness' means Covenant and the reason you won't find the term 'lovingkindness' in the NT is because it's been replaced by grace. Now, I always understood the word that is translated to 'lovingkindness' doesn't really have a true English equivalent but that it referred to the mercy/love/protection between two people who are in covenant (or otherwise bound to one another legally). Am I splitting hairs? It doesn't mean covenant, but speaks to the relationship of two people in covenant.

(II) The woman said in the context of covenant sacrifices and how the OT had to perform animal sacrifices over and over, and there were nods from the crowd, that (and I'm quoting here) 'Only human blood would satisfy God and that's why Jesus had to come down as a human to die on the cross." Now, had this only been said once I would have chalked it up to very very poor phrasing or early morning confusing or distraction while speaking or something...but she repeated it twice and, like I said, the audience was nodding in agreement. My husband was raised in this denomination (but hasn't been a member for probably three decades or more)...when I came home I told him (because this really truly bothered me to the core) and all he said was "that's odd." I don't think this is the official position of the denomination, but maybe that's how it is all interpreted? I don't know. Has anyone heard this interpreted this way? It's not at all what I believe.

Re: Covenant Sacrifice & the Cross [message #820268 is a reply to message #820222 ] Mon, 31 July 2017 14:23 Go to previous message
Lisa R.  is currently offline Lisa R.
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Not what I believe either. I don't have time to research a detailed rebuttal, but I'd start here:

I've never heard of "lovingkindness" as meaning anything more than "loving kindness" or a "steadfast" or "faithful" love. Never heard it translated as covenant. Strong's shows them as two completely separate words.

Heb. 9:22 is the verse that says without the shedding of blood, there is no forgiveness. But if you read further, you'll see that Christ is the perfect sacrifice. IMHO, it can't be just "human blood" that is required, or any sacrifice would have sufficed. We could have sacrificed humans instead of goats and bulls...but that was clearly taboo, so I'm not at all in agreement with that teaching, and would avoid that church.

Lisa R.
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