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Lively discussion at our house.. [message #776095] Sat, 30 March 2013 16:49 Go to next message
Sherry in NH  is currently offline Sherry in NH
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Shroud of Turin Poll[ 18 vote(s) ]
1.I believe that the Shroud of Turin is what wrapped Jesus 1 / 6%
2.I believe that the Shroud of Turin shows a picture of Jesus 0 / 0%
3.I believe that the Shroud of Turin is a fake 5 / 28%
4.I believe that the Shroud of Turin is a creation or artistic 1 / 6%
5.Some combo 1 / 6%
6.Something else 10 / 56%

...tonight, regarding "news" on the Shroud of Turin.

What do you think about it? Here's a poll...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shroud_of_Turin


In Jesus

Sherry from NH
Re: Lively discussion at our house.. [message #776098 is a reply to message #776095 ] Sat, 30 March 2013 17:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Lisa T.  is currently offline Lisa T.
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I voted "something else." As a chemist, the shroud and the research associated with it is of interest to me, but I'm not sure if it is the real deal or a fake. It doesn't actually matter much to me, except that if it is in fact what it appears to be, that is amazing.

It just isn't an article of faith with me...I am open to whatever evidence is available. I haven't had a chance to read the newest evidence being presented.


Lisa T.
Re: Lively discussion at our house.. [message #776101 is a reply to message #776095 ] Sat, 30 March 2013 20:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have no idea ...


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Re: Lively discussion at our house.. [message #776105 is a reply to message #776095 ] Sun, 31 March 2013 02:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
janetR  is currently offline janetR
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I voted "something else" because the way the other options are worded make this an object of faith and, like Lisa, it is not that to me. I'll admit that it is fascinating. I had an atheist math teacher once who, when we were doing some calculus problems related to carbon dating, told us that he thought it was the cloth that had wrapped Jesus and he seemed to be considering faith because of it.


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Re: Lively discussion at our house.. [message #776110 is a reply to message #776098 ] Sun, 31 March 2013 04:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lisa T. wrote on Sat, 30 March 2013 17:48

I voted "something else." As a chemist, the shroud and the research associated with it is of interest to me, but I'm not sure if it is the real deal or a fake. It doesn't actually matter much to me, except that if it is in fact what it appears to be, that is amazing.

It just isn't an article of faith with me...I am open to whatever evidence is available. I haven't had a chance to read the newest evidence being presented.



I'm pretty much exactly with Lisa T. on this, except for the "as a chemist" part. Smile

I haven't heard the latest news, but followed it years and years ago with some interest.

I think it's all very interesting, but it doesn't matter to my faith in the least. I see danger to some who would give it more importance that it should have--"article of faith" rather than "article of historical interest."


Blessings,
Lisa R.
Re: Lively discussion at our house.. [message #776142 is a reply to message #776095 ] Sun, 31 March 2013 17:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I tend to be of the "fake" category. The shroud allegedly shows Jesus entire body, head to foot. (not so) Minor problem with that is John 20:6-7, which seems pretty clear that he had a separate cloth around his head and that after the resurrection, the cloth that was around Jesus' head was, well, separate. I always find it interesting when a particular passage says something that is so clearly against something that a man or group of men want us to believe. Who are we supposed to believe, the men or those lyin' Bible verses? Wink

(and that statement is meant to mock folks who ignore Scripture, not Scripture)

As a separate aside, I remember an article a few years back where an artist used 13th century methods to re-create the shroud of Turin. Here's an article about that:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/10/05/us-italy-shroud-id USTRE5943HL20091005
Re: Lively discussion at our house.. [message #776151 is a reply to message #776095 ] Mon, 01 April 2013 01:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:

he had a separate cloth around his head and that after the resurrection, the cloth that was around Jesus' head was, well, separate.

I completely forgot about this. Thanks, Scott!


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Re: Lively discussion at our house.. [message #776157 is a reply to message #776151 ] Mon, 01 April 2013 04:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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janetR wrote on Mon, 01 April 2013 01:40

Quote:

he had a separate cloth around his head and that after the resurrection, the cloth that was around Jesus' head was, well, separate.

I completely forgot about this. Thanks, Scott!



That was what made me decide it was fake years ago...I hadn't thought about it in years, and didn't remember what conclusions I came to back then.


Blessings,
Lisa R.
Re: Lively discussion at our house.. [message #776175 is a reply to message #776142 ] Mon, 01 April 2013 05:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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From what I understand , from a history channel show,there is another cloth, that covered the face and it is kept by a different church , not the one in Turin. They are both being studied.
Re: Lively discussion at our house.. [message #776198 is a reply to message #776095 ] Mon, 01 April 2013 09:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I voted something else without reading the replies.

I don't think it matters. I think our focus should be sharing the Gospel and worshiping the one true God. Sounds like another area to distract from the Truth.


I know that everything God does will endure forever; nothing can be added to it and nothing taken from it. God does it so that men will revere him.
~from Ecclesiastes 3:14~
Re: Lively discussion at our house.. [message #776290 is a reply to message #776198 ] Tue, 02 April 2013 13:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MartySC  is currently offline MartySC
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Same here - voted something else because I could care less. My focus is on serving the One who Saved me by Grave.

[Updated on: Tue, 02 April 2013 13:24]


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Re: Lively discussion at our house.. [message #776293 is a reply to message #776095 ] Tue, 02 April 2013 14:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think it's unlikely to be 'real' but I don't really have much invested in my opinion. It isn't an issue that I would debate about at all.
Re: Lively discussion at our house.. [message #776633 is a reply to message #776095 ] Sun, 07 April 2013 19:44 Go to previous message
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I said fake because I agree with Scott.
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