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Flu Shot poll....and discussion [message #716974] Thu, 15 September 2011 15:27 Go to next message
K in nc  is currently offline K in nc
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Flu Shots...[ 39 vote(s) ]
1.I have not decided yet 5 / 13%
2.Other...explain 2 / 5%
3.Yes, I will be getting a flu shot this year 10 / 26%
4.No, I wont be getting a flu shot this year 22 / 56%

Ok, I made a poll, I am sure there are not enough choices, but it gets the discussion started.

Personally, our family has never ever ever ever gotten a flu shot. We just don't. Have never felt the need too, as usually we don't get the flu, and when we do it is usually every 5 years or so.

HOWEVER, last year for us was horrible! All three of my teens had the flu, one right after the other, and not only did they have the flu, but the oldest had flu/mono, the middle had flu/strep, the youngest had flu/strep, then mono!....it was all one right after the other...it was a horrible winter!

This is the first year I have EVER really considered encouraging my kids to get the shot. And the first year I have really seriously considered it for myself. With my surgery barely a year passed, I feel like my immune system is just not up to par.

I had the flu two or three years ago, when the swine flu was such a scare, pretty sure I had a case of it, and it turned into bronchitis, and almost had illness induced asthma...horrid...i have never been so sick in my life.

[Updated on: Thu, 15 September 2011 15:28]


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Re: Flu Shot poll....and discussion [message #716976 is a reply to message #716974 ] Thu, 15 September 2011 15:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Diana P.  is currently offline Diana P.
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Yes, we do flu shots.

No, we have never regretted it.

And, along the way, we try to eat as healthy as possible, take our Vitamin D, Vitamin C, wash our hands, and all of those other helpful things that we all do to make it through the winter. Smile


Grace & Peace,
Diana

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Re: Flu Shot poll....and discussion [message #716978 is a reply to message #716974 ] Thu, 15 September 2011 15:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Laura Scholz  is currently offline Laura Scholz
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I voted that I won't be getting it, but now I'm wondering if my dc should... We never get the flu, but with the oldest in college this year, I may consider it for them.


In Him,
Laura Scholz
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Re: Flu Shot poll....and discussion [message #716985 is a reply to message #716978 ] Thu, 15 September 2011 16:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Michele (Queen of Cheap)  is currently offline Michele (Queen of Cheap)
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No flu shots here.


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Re: Flu Shot poll....and discussion [message #716986 is a reply to message #716985 ] Thu, 15 September 2011 16:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hyzenthlay
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other:

We don't do flu shots, we do take the homeopathic preperation of each years flu shot.
Becky
Re: Flu Shot poll....and discussion [message #716988 is a reply to message #716974 ] Thu, 15 September 2011 16:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Elise  is currently offline Elise
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We've never gotten flu shots and don't plan to. I've only had the real flu a few times in my 40+ years. I figure I'd have it that often even with the flu shot because it can't vaccinate you against all flu viruses. IMO, it's a money-making scheme.


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Elise


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Re: Flu Shot poll....and discussion [message #716989 is a reply to message #716974 ] Thu, 15 September 2011 16:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I do. My immune system is compromised by the meds I take for RA, and I teach in a public high school, so I'm exposed to everything under the sun. I also have asthma, which is a risk factor for complications from flu. I always encourage my dh to get his, but he's afraid Wink. He has asthma way worse than me, and is also at risk. Also, we're approaching age 60...not getting any younger!

If I were young, healthy, and homeschooling all my kids, I wouldn't bother.


Lisa T.
Re: Flu Shot poll....and discussion [message #716999 is a reply to message #716974 ] Thu, 15 September 2011 17:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SkiGirl
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Yes....I will...I have asthma. And my ds who has asthma will get one.

I have had two cases of simple colds going straight to my lungs. I will not take the chance with the flu. I would have gotten one today at the dr, but I was sick. Laughing


Rebecca
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Re: Flu Shot poll....and discussion [message #717004 is a reply to message #716974 ] Thu, 15 September 2011 18:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We don't do them. I don't believe they do what they say, and even if they do,they only protect against the three strains that are in them, and they admit they essentially guess at which three are going to be the most likely. The whole process is just too "iffy" for me to risk it. I had a horrible case of the flu in 1998 and, I strongly suspect, swine flu in 2009. I was horribly miserable for 3 days or so both times...so 6 days out of 13 years...definitely not worth the risk to me.

We DO practice good hygiene and eat healthy, take vitamins and herbs when something is going around, and I've even taken advantage of the wipes for carts at the grocery store...but no shots for us!


Blessings,
Lisa R.
Re: Flu Shot poll....and discussion [message #717012 is a reply to message #716974 ] Thu, 15 September 2011 19:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ReneeL.inMN
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We will not be getting them.
My sons can make the decision for themselves.
My husband (commercial pilot) has never gotten a flu shot and has never been sick....I figure with everyone he comes in contact with and all the recycled air he breathes he must have a great immune system.
I have had the flu once in the 23 years I've been married. My children have never had the flu.


ReneeL.inMN
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My stomach hurts, but I still choose joy! :-)

Re: Flu Shot poll....and discussion [message #717033 is a reply to message #716974 ] Thu, 15 September 2011 21:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've already had one this year! Of course, our flu season is finishing now, not starting. I wouldn't get it if I had already been pregnant, but I got it before I got pg - I'm as high risk as it gets, really, working in the ER with lots of sick children...


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Re: Flu Shot poll....and discussion [message #717066 is a reply to message #716974 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 03:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I haven't decided yet. Some years I've gotten one, some not. More often not. I have only gotten the flu twice, at least the full-blown flu. It was awful, just awful. If it was just me, I'd forgo it. I don't generally get any complications. But, my dd, pregnant, and her 3-yr-old both have pretty bad asthma. Even a small cold sends the little one into a pretty bad attack that takes prednisone to get rid of. Dd also, but she can handle it a little better. I'm around them a lot. I wasn't going to get one this year but I would hate for dgd to have more ER visits due to my flu exposure.

Still not sure though.

Robin H.
Re: Flu Shot poll....and discussion [message #717148 is a reply to message #716974 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 11:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My dh will as he has asthma and can get very ill. My youngest might as he is at a tech school with a bunch of germs. He said they got a talk about hygene the other day and were shown how to brush their teeth, told to shower daily and wear clean clothes. This is high school! Shocked So if that was necessary then I'm thinking they are germy and he needs a shot.

My other son and I may or may not. We are not around a lot of other people.

Rosemary


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Re: Flu Shot poll....and discussion [message #717395 is a reply to message #716974 ] Sun, 18 September 2011 01:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In years past I always laughed at getting a flue shot. However, last year I was admitted to the hospital hours away from death...under 5 on the iron test and in the midst of a severe thyroid storm. I submitted to a flue shot at my nurses' pleading <I can be a Real pain>. I experience no side affects and remained healthy as the majority of my family experienced the flu to one degree or the other. I will be getting a flue shot and a pneumonia shot very soon.

[Updated on: Sun, 18 September 2011 01:17]


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Re: Flu Shot poll....and discussion [message #717404 is a reply to message #716974 ] Sun, 18 September 2011 09:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A few years back - and I can't recall what prompted it - my husband and I received our very first flu shot. We never "indulged" in trying to prevent it before, but something was happening that particular year, either in our private lives or perhaps a "scare" strain or something, that made us decide for his sake (dealing with so many in the public) to get it and for myself as well since I was care-taking my son who was receiving a lot of complications with his eye-injury. While we had "flu" before, that was the only year that we had the knock-yourself-dead flu, the kind where you literally want to die...and it wasn't the flu strain that they were vaccinating for. (Turned out that was the year we also had court mediation over our son's injury ... we were not at the top of our game...we were using the lawyers bathroom and passing out on the couch during the whole thing...and we are *not* the type that willingly goes out to infect others.)

We've never bothered with it again.


Peace
Re: Flu Shot poll....and discussion [message #717433 is a reply to message #716974 ] Sun, 18 September 2011 16:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Maddie
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Thanks for the reminder--it's probably about time to schedule the kids' shots. And my dh and I will get them too. Actually we did the nose spray instead of the shots the last two years and that was great. And our insurance pays for the shots.

When our oldest was 2 years old, she got some flu and the 102 degree fever (which isn't even all that high) sent her into a seizure that we could not stop with valium. We had to take her to the ER and she was admitted overnight. We have all received flu shots ever since. We have never had a flu-like illness since. If your complications due to flu are serious, you get the shots.


Maddie
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Re: Flu Shot poll....and discussion [message #717449 is a reply to message #716974 ] Sun, 18 September 2011 18:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have never had a flu shot.

The last time I had the flu was in August, the year that the Princess was killed (12, 13 years ago?).


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Re: Flu Shot poll....and discussion [message #717450 is a reply to message #717449 ] Sun, 18 September 2011 19:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My kids all get them because insurance covers it. My dh cleans a dr.'s office so they often give him one for free. I don't usually get one because I don't feel like paying and I figure anything I catch is usually from my kids so having everyone else in the family get the shot gives me some measure of protection.


Carrie

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Re: Flu Shot poll....and discussion [message #717585 is a reply to message #716974 ] Mon, 19 September 2011 13:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've been pondering these threads about flu shots. It always comes up everywhere I go.

I can fully understand the "what's the point. We never get the flu and we're relatively healthy" attitude. That's where I've been most of my life. I completely understand that the flu vaccine is not an exact science. I know that sometimes it is the wrong strain. I know that sometimes the flu rages on too long in the season and the effectiveness of your shot wanes, and you end up with the flu anyway.

But when ds was very small, even a cold would trigger major asthma issues for him. But for many years, he was unable to get the flu shot due to his egg allergy.

Two years ago, I was at my dr and they urged me to get a shot because of my asthma diagnosis. It was my first one. Last year, I happened to get a simple cold. My simple cold turned into a major issue. It went straight to my chest. I couldn't take my inhaler and called my dr begging for a spacer which helped immensely. I was taking my inhaler around the clock for several days just to be able to breathe. It was flu shot season, so as soon as I got well, I got my shot.

This year, once again, right before flu shot season, I caught a cold. Really, all I had was a very mild sore throat and laryngitis. Whatever bug this was once again went straight to my lungs. Oh my....I have been sick for three weeks and am finally on the road to recovery. I am taking my inhaler around the clock again. On antibiotics and finally coughing up some of the nastiest stuff ever. I was not deathly sick all this time. It was atypical, so I was functioning, but incredibly tired and had many periods when I felt very sick. My stomach hurt and the day after I went to the dr, I ended up coughing so much my diaphragm was hurting I held the top of my chest and lower ribs every time I coughed to lessen the pain and followed it up with an "Ow" from the force of coughing. It hurt when I moved and used those abdominal muscles waking me up in the night due to pain and then triggering coughing jags. I think two of my children caught this because they complained about a slight sore throat for a day or so , but had no other symptoms like I did.

So...I don't care if the flu shot is a guessing game. I am going to take any measure I can to prevent from getting it. I was telling dh this morning that I couldn't imagine being so tired from not breathing well with the addition of the flu on top of it. I just cannot imagine it. I have had the flu and it's not been "that bad." But when I think of adding my asthma in on top of it. Oh my.....I could get in a heap of trouble. I told dh...I don't care if no one else in our family gets a shot. Ds and I will. I think if it can possibly prevent the two of us from getting very ill, it is both prudent and a blessing for us both. It just all depends on your experience. Healthy people think it is pointless, but I think it is a Godsend!!


Rebecca
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Re: Flu Shot poll....and discussion [message #717663 is a reply to message #717585 ] Mon, 19 September 2011 23:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:

I can fully understand the "what's the point. We never get the flu and we're relatively healthy" attitude. That's where I've been most of my life. I completely understand that the flu vaccine is not an exact science. I know that sometimes it is the wrong strain. I know that sometimes the flu rages on too long in the season and the effectiveness of your shot wanes, and you end up with the flu anyway.


Quote:

It just all depends on your experience. Healthy people think it is pointless, but I think it is a Godsend!!


I can't speak for everyone who's used those words, but for myself, it's not just, "oh, I'm healthy so I don't want the shot." It's "I've researched it and I don't believe it works like they say. I don't believe it IS effective.

So, for me, it's not a matter of "I'm going to avoid taking something that will be good for me and prevent a possible illness, but I'm not going to bother because I don't usually get the flu."

For me it's, "I believe this shot is not good for me, and I believe I will be healthier because I don't take it. But as an added point, I don't see that it is necessary for me because I am blessed with good health anyway." I believe flu shots, in particular, are a big scam.

However, I'm in the very small minority, and I don't see the point of trying to convince anyone of my position. People have to search things out for themselves and do as God leads them. I'm always happy to answer questions like this thread, but I don't debate the issue. Besides, I could always be wrong, and I'd hate to feel responsible if some asthmatic person took my advice and blamed me for being really sick.


Blessings,
Lisa R.
Re: Flu Shot poll....and discussion [message #717691 is a reply to message #717663 ] Tue, 20 September 2011 07:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Robin H.  is currently offline Robin H.
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Like I said upthread, I still haven't decided about the flu shot this year. And it has worked for my family before. Dh got it one year and everyone else in the family came down with the flu so I have some anecdotal evidence that it is sometimes effective. I believe it's more than a guess when they put together the flu strain vaccine for the year. Everything usually starts in China and that's where they begin the research. I think also that while some of us can weather flu just fine, there are others who will not survive the short-term effects of the full-blown flu. But I also believe that there's something fishy about the big pharmaceutical companies/federal government push for this. I really am trying to figure out what the role of government in a free-market society should be in the area of public health anyway.

So I'm really back and forth.

But I'm just genuinely curious about something, Lisa. Do you not think vaccines were ever effective and beneficial? Smallpox? Polio? Do you think the people who got these were also wrong and harmed themselves? I know a case of polio can also come back and have serious side effects in later years, I guess much like those who think that vaccines in general will come back to haunt many with long-term negative side effects. My father drove the hearse for the local funeral home in Wytheville, Virginia back in the early '50's. They were hit very, very hard with polio and are famous for it. He had a lot of business and was very scared. He didn't come down with it but another driver did. Polio was devastating.

I guess a difference I see is that these were one-time vaccines but the flu vaccine is required every year.

I'm not trying to be belligerent here. I just wonder if those who feel that vaccines are harmful extend that to all the other vaccine campaigns that have seemed to work. Our society generally views people like Salk, Jenner, Pasteur, Reed, etc. as heroes. Are they? Just trying to figure this out. Is there something I don't realize?

Robin H.
Re: Flu Shot poll....and discussion [message #717692 is a reply to message #717691 ] Tue, 20 September 2011 07:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When they formulate the flu shot, they are guessing on which strain will be prevalent for this year. They have to make it way in advance of the flu cases actually appearing so it is a guess. If they guess wrong, then the flu shot isn't effective though it will give you some protection (basically it will keep you from getting as sick).


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Re: Flu Shot poll....and discussion [message #717704 is a reply to message #717691 ] Tue, 20 September 2011 08:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm not trying to be belligerent here. I just wonder if those who feel that vaccines are harmful extend that to all the other vaccine campaigns that have seemed to work. Our society generally views people like Salk, Jenner, Pasteur, Reed, etc. as heroes. Are they? Just trying to figure this out. Is there something I don't realize?




I really don't know for sure, which is one reason I don't promulgate my opinion much. I researched up to a certain point a few years back, but kids kept coming and life got busier, so I've not researched as deeply as I need to, to go out on a limb about this stuff. The things that you are asking, about diseases that are no longer around are the very things I've not finished delving into enough to say for sure what even I believe on the topic. I do know that about the time that vaccines were becoming more prevalent, so was a general knowledge of germs and cleanliness. THAT is where I want to put in some serious research time at some point. Also if you research a little about diet, and the prevalence of milling flour and using white flour rather than the whole wheat, and look at just that one thing, it's amazing the effect that such a small thing has on our health.

When I put things like that together with the fact that, for instance in the year I was first researching much of this, there was a huge outbreak of measles in TX where I was living. It was declared an epidemic....but something like 80% of the victims had been vaccinated. There was this huge push to get kids vaccinated, because they said the unvaccinated kids were causing the vaccinated kids to get sick. I have heard the explanation of "herd immunity" and I understand the concept that some vaccines don't "take" for some people and that sort of thing....but really? If there's an epidemic in the vaccinated population, is it really working?

And then the pro-vaccine people really counter their own arguments in some cases. Now they say they've "proven" that there is no connection between autism and the measles vaccine, but back in the midst of the controversy, I heard an interview with a rabidly pro-vaccine doctor who these very words, though I can't guarantee this is an exact quote...in talking about informing parents about the possibility of autism he said, "We have to tell parents it's safe or they won't vaccinate their children. This is just too important for them to be afraid of."

I've read an awful lot of sensationalist rubbish about vaccine damage and it's all very scary and designed to make parents run in fear of vaccines. I hate that such stuff is out there, because it makes anyone who is not convinced about vaccines seem like a moron, by association. But there seems to be enough evidence and research out there to, at the very least, cause people to exercise a bit of caution.

As to harm, I understand the concept of building antibodies and so forth, but the natural disease typically enters the body in a completely different way than a vaccine, and filters through your immune system differently...so the effects on your body and your immune system are different. I don't know...there's so much to consider. And then, when you consider all the things that are recalled a few years after they've been on the market, I'm just not quite ready to jump on that bandwagon. I have some personal situations that cause me to wonder....my oldest had a pretty severe reaction to the dpt shot, but I didn't realize at the time that it would have been considered "reportable," so we just suffered through it and in the end, she was fine. The last child to get vaccines was my only one who got that one they give at birth. She is also the only one I have who has any sort of learning issues. Can I relate that to the vaccine? Well, I haven't found anything online that would connect the two things, so I won't connect them....but I do wonder, and wish that I hadn't done it so I could know for certain whether God created her with learning issues or whether I did it to her. I'll never know, so I don't dwell on it...especially since God is sovereign and she wouldn't be the way she is outside of His will anyway.

At any rate...I do NOT EVER try to dissuade people from having vaccines. If they work as expected, then it's really a huge issue to decide not to do them. In my own heart I've had to pray and consider what if my kid gets whooping cough or diptheria and how I'd handle that, knowing that it might have been preventable. But I've also had to consider how I'd handle any vaccine damange as well. I think every parent should figure these things out for themselves. When my firstborn was due for her first vaccines, I was very unsettled, and concerned about them, but try as I might (with no internet yet!) I couldn't find any research indicating that there might be any issues with them, except an occasional news blurb about SIDS. I couldn't go against the entire medical establishment on the basis of "I don't feel comfortable." But as soon as I found evidence that I could really consider, I took a different route. But it's too serious a thing for me to "prosyletize" until I've researched enough to remove all doubt in my own mind.

I'm sure Elizabby will see this and reassure everyone that what I'm saying is unfounded, and that's fine. I may well be wrong. But this is the path I believe God is leading MY family down, and He's blessing us with good health so far. I wouldn't presume that He would do the same for others unless HE is leading in that direction.


Blessings,
Lisa R.
Re: Flu Shot poll....and discussion [message #717748 is a reply to message #717395 ] Tue, 20 September 2011 12:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mairi  is currently offline Mairi
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No, we don't get flu shots.

DS who has never had a flu shot (he's 21) has had the flu once. A teenage girl went to the youth retreat with the flu and infected the entire youth group who then infected their families. The flu went through the entire church for 3 weeks.

DH who has never had a flu shot either has had the flu once in our 23 years of marriage.

I haven't had a flu shot in 30 years and have had the flu twice in all those years.


Mairi
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Re: Flu Shot poll....and discussion [message #717749 is a reply to message #717691 ] Tue, 20 September 2011 12:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robin H. wrote on Tue, 20 September 2011 06:47

Do you not think vaccines were ever effective and beneficial? Smallpox? Polio? Do you think the people who got these were also wrong and harmed themselves? I know a case of polio can also come back and have serious side effects in later years, I guess much like those who think that vaccines in general will come back to haunt many with long-term negative side effects. My father drove the hearse for the local funeral home in Wytheville, Virginia back in the early '50's. They were hit very, very hard with polio and are famous for it. He had a lot of business and was very scared. He didn't come down with it but another driver did. Polio was devastating.


The fact that small pox - polio and other devastating illnesses have essentially been wiped out is why I view (MOST) vaccines as from God - blessings! That doesn't mean that some are unnecessary, some are maybe even harmful. Some have been pushed purely for financial gain and/or political agendas. I'll gladly jump on the conspiracy bandwagon when there's enough evidence but overall I think the vaccinations (over the decades) have been good.

As far as the flu shots?
-dh had the flu once - got shots the next couple of years but doesn't anymore. He just doesn't think they are affective.
-25yo son has gotten flu shots for about three years now, his choice, never had the flu
-24yod will not get them and believes they are harmful. She had the flu once at about age 12
-21yod has no opinion and will get the shot if convenient - never had flu.
-18yos had a very bad case of the flu at age 16 which ruined his track season Sad He since has gotten the shots and wants to continue.
-I have gotten a shot the last few years, never had the flu (that I know of), and don't know if I think they are worth it or not.


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Re: Flu Shot poll....and discussion [message #717775 is a reply to message #717704 ] Tue, 20 September 2011 14:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks, Lisa. I was just thinking about it. I've read a lot on epidemics and I think about this issue. But on the other hand, I'm open to conspiracies too Evil or Very Mad Smile .

And yes, I had one child who reacted funny to DPT (screamed and screamed for a couple of hours after the shot). She stopped getting them after that. But she's okay and an adult now. But you wonder . . .

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our kids all had very mild reactions to vaccines...


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Robin H. wrote on Tue, 20 September 2011 14:01

Thanks, Lisa. I was just thinking about it. I've read a lot on epidemics and I think about this issue. But on the other hand, I'm open to conspiracies too Evil or Very Mad Smile .

And yes, I had one child who reacted funny to DPT (screamed and screamed for a couple of hours after the shot). She stopped getting them after that. But she's okay and an adult now. But you wonder . . .

Robin H.



Interestingly, I'm not particularly convinced about any conspiracies (though my cynical personality never rules them out. Wink) I tend to believe that in general the medical community "pushing" vaccines truly believes they are best for people. But I've also read a number of books where certain research is suppressed for political or economic reasons, etc., and I wonder. But for the average doctor out there prescribing or giving vaccines, I believe they truly believe they are doing the best thing...and in the end, maybe they are.


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I have gotten the flu shot for 9 years - the year after I had the flu. I was so sick I thought I would die. The body aches were so bad I felt like my thigh bones were breaking. I also got the pneumonia shot after having pnemonia for a couple of years in a row. It is good for a number of years Haven't had either since. Ds gets a flu shot but dh never has. He rarely gets sick whereas I am one to catch everything. Dh is a minister and often in hospitals. I tell him he is my personal Typhoid Mary and brings stuff home to share with me. Very Happy


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Jewell wrote on Tue, 20 September 2011 23:06

I have gotten the flu shot for 9 years - the year after I had the flu. I was so sick I thought I would die. The body aches were so bad I felt like my thigh bones were breaking. I also got the pneumonia shot after having pnemonia for a couple of years in a row. It is good for a number of years Haven't had either since. Ds gets a flu shot but dh never has. He rarely gets sick whereas I am one to catch everything. Dh is a minister and often in hospitals. I tell him he is my personal Typhoid Mary and brings stuff home to share with me. Very Happy

Laughing Laughing Same with my dh!

We have had very similar experiences, too. Except that it happened to me at least 4 times (yes, I'm a slow learner!). Every one of those years that I didn't get the flu shot, I got miserably ill. I'm done with the school of hard knocks now; I just bite the bullet and get it.


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