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BT from Church Wins Lottery [message #560858] Sun, 16 August 2009 08:34 Go to next message
Michele (Queen of Cheap)  is currently offline Michele (Queen of Cheap)
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Women Pastors?[ 37 vote(s) ]
1.I do not think it is okay for a church to have a woman for a pastor. 32 / 86%
2.I think it is perfectly fine for a church to have a woman for a pastor. 5 / 14%

Do you think it is okay for a church to have a woman pastor? I only put two options to pick from, yes or no. I do believe it is a black and white issue.


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Re: BT from Church Wins Lottery [message #560877 is a reply to message #560858 ] Sun, 16 August 2009 11:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I voted #1, but I do have to clarify. I don't have an issue with a Children's ministry director or Women's director that are oftentimes called pastor, even though the roles are different. I DO NOT believe a women should be a senior pastor of a church and regularly speak - sermon wise - nor have the responsibilities of a senior pastor. I don't object to the aforementioned directors/pastors giving an update of their ministries at church, though.


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Re: BT from Church Wins Lottery [message #560901 is a reply to message #560877 ] Sun, 16 August 2009 13:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am perfectly okay with a woman being over the children or a women only class.


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Re: BT from Church Wins Lottery [message #560918 is a reply to message #560877 ] Sun, 16 August 2009 15:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Teri in AZ wrote on Sun, 16 August 2009 11:17

I voted #1, but I do have to clarify. I don't have an issue with a Children's ministry director or Women's director that are oftentimes called pastor, even though the roles are different. I DO NOT believe a women should be a senior pastor of a church and regularly speak - sermon wise - nor have the responsibilities of a senior pastor. I don't object to the aforementioned directors/pastors giving an update of their ministries at church, though.

My thoughts exactly Smile


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Re: BT from Church Wins Lottery [message #560943 is a reply to message #560858 ] Sun, 16 August 2009 17:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I chose #1 because I've always believed that (exception being what Teri mentioned). However, I have to admit I've never done a study on what the bible actually says, I've just always been taught, and therefore believed, that having a woman pastor (senior status or equal to) is not scriptural.

OPEN to correction! Smile

of course according to Pagan Christianity maybe having a "pastor" at all isn't necessarily "biblical" - as in, not in line with the NT church. (running for cover as I type this!)

[Updated on: Sun, 16 August 2009 18:02]


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Re: BT from Church Wins Lottery [message #560947 is a reply to message #560858 ] Sun, 16 August 2009 18:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't agree with a woman in that position of authority. I do not think it is the same with children, though I would prefer that teen-hood be covered by a man for boys. I do not care for women in leadership positions, either, for example music ministry. I've seen them become little ministers, tagging prayers on to the end of their P&W which are really sermonettes. That may be too specific for the question and more of a personal issue.


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Re: BT from Church Wins Lottery [message #560969 is a reply to message #560858 ] Sun, 16 August 2009 19:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I voted #2 - but what does this have to do with church lotteries?? (I skimmed that thread, but usually can't open links - was it from there?)

I DISapprove of churches doing lotteries, just for the record!


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Re: BT from Church Wins Lottery [message #560975 is a reply to message #560858 ] Sun, 16 August 2009 19:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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it was a bunny trial...the pastor of the church that won the lottery in the story was a woman....that is some bunny trail! Wink


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Re: BT from Church Wins Lottery [message #560980 is a reply to message #560975 ] Sun, 16 August 2009 19:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kimberly in NC wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 09:32

it was a bunny trial...the pastor of the church that won the lottery in the story was a woman....that is some bunny trail! Wink


Umm - OK, but as long as people are clear that these are two totally *separate* issues! I hope no-one thinks that *all* women pastors gamble with church funds, or that *no* male pastors do! Wink


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Re: BT from Church Wins Lottery [message #560988 is a reply to message #560858 ] Sun, 16 August 2009 20:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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heehee....yeah...

as far as female pastors go...i am unsure as to how I feel about it....i have always been taught that the head pastor or leader of a church should be a male....something about women not being in authority over men....


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Re: BT from Church Wins Lottery [message #561022 is a reply to message #560988 ] Sun, 16 August 2009 21:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, that was it. The pastor of the church that won the lottery was a woman. I bunny trailed off of that. The two issues are completely different and have nothing to do with each other.


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Re: BT from Church Wins Lottery [message #561025 is a reply to message #560858 ] Sun, 16 August 2009 21:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Anyone's perspective on whether or not a woman can be a pastor is always open to personal interpretation, on whether or not it is Biblical or un-Biblical, just like so many other doctrinal issues. Unfortunately, it can be very divisive, and personally, I don't see that it has to be that way. We have a common enemy, and so many issues out there to fight; and I feel that we take up way too much time on what I call "non-essential" issues; a woman pastor being one of them. Hordes of people are on their way to hell, the lake of fire, and all of us should be working together to spread the gospel of Jesus Christ. I know whole congregations that spend inordinate amounts of time preaching against women, preaching against tongues, preaching against spiritual gifts, etc..etc..

IMHO, it's ALL a waste of time and resources when we have a very real enemy to fight; we spend waaaaay too much time fighting each other. Sad (NOT speaking of anyone on this board having healthy discussions; speaking about churches and individuals IRL that treat one another badly over these things.)


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Re: BT from Church Wins Lottery [message #561028 is a reply to message #561025 ] Sun, 16 August 2009 21:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Diana P. wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 11:16

I feel that we take up way too much time on what I call "non-essential" issues;

Hordes of people are on their way to hell, the lake of fire, and all of us should be working together to spread the gospel of Jesus Christ.

IMHO, it's ALL a waste of time and resources when we have a very real enemy to fight; we spend waaaaay too much time fighting each other. Sad (NOT speaking of anyone on this board having healthy discussions; speaking about churches and individuals IRL that treat one another badly over these things.)



AMEN! My pastor used to call all this stuff "leaves" as opposed to *fruit*! Wink He used to say far too much time and effort is spent on "leaves" when the leaves only exist to help the tree bear *fruit*!

(I was SOOOO sad when he retired, but I love my new female minister too! Wink )

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Re: BT from Church Wins Lottery [message #561043 is a reply to message #560858 ] Sun, 16 August 2009 22:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No, I don't believe it is okay or biblical to have a woman pastor and I woudnt attend a church that had one.


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Re: BT from Church Wins Lottery [message #561067 is a reply to message #560858 ] Mon, 17 August 2009 01:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Michele (Queen of Cheap) wrote on Sun, 16 August 2009 22:34

Do you think it is okay for a church to have a woman pastor? I only put two options to pick from, yes or no. I do believe it is a black and white issue.


I just felt I should point out that there are some other options which I've heard of people taking:
- I wouldn't want to attend a church with a woman pastor, but would still fellowship or call Christians those who do.
- I would be OK with a female pastor/minister under the supervision of a male bishop/overseer.
- I would be OK with a female pastor whose ministry was to women and children, or had a specific function such as worship/band/choir leader.
- I wouldn't mind a female pastor for myself, but my husband wouldn't want to be under a woman's authority/teaching.

Just to add some other options!


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Elizabby

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Re: BT from Church Wins Lottery [message #561098 is a reply to message #560858 ] Mon, 17 August 2009 07:58 Go to previous message
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I do not believe it's Biblical for a woman to be a pastor and I would never attend a church that had one.

I Timothy 3:2 an overseer (elder, pastor) is to be the husband of one wife.

I Tim 2:11-13 Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was first formed, then Eve.


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