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Patriotism... [message #537232] Mon, 25 May 2009 18:27 Go to next message
Sherry in NH  is currently offline Sherry in NH
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The Patriotism Poll[ 23 vote(s) ]
1.I think all Christians should be patriotic to their country of birth 1 / 4%
2.I think all Christians should be patriotic to their country of residence 1 / 4%
3.I don't think patriotism is compatible with Christianity 0 / 0%
4.It depends on what you mean by patriotism 13 / 57%
5.Some combo 4 / 17%
6.Something else 4 / 17%

What is your opinion about patriotism, in general? Here's a poll


In Jesus

Sherry from NH
Re: Patriotism... [message #537239 is a reply to message #537232 ] Mon, 25 May 2009 18:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
~Janice  is currently offline ~Janice
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I would chose #4 and #5. It does depend on what you mean by it also I think being patriotic doesn't, necessarily, have much to do with your Christianity.


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Re: Patriotism... [message #537384 is a reply to message #537232 ] Tue, 26 May 2009 03:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think patriotism and Christianity are two completely independent factors, with nothing connecting them. So I think it is quite fine to be patriotic to any country, and be a Christian, or be non-patriotic and be a Christian. Christianity is a religious belief system, and patriotism is a political view. Since Christianity says nothing in particular about patriotism, I think we are free to do as we like.


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Re: Patriotism... [message #537671 is a reply to message #537384 ] Tue, 26 May 2009 20:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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elizabby wrote on Tue, 26 May 2009 02:40

I think patriotism and Christianity are two completely independent factors, with nothing connecting them. So I think it is quite fine to be patriotic to any country, and be a Christian, or be non-patriotic and be a Christian. Christianity is a religious belief system, and patriotism is a political view. Since Christianity says nothing in particular about patriotism, I think we are free to do as we like.




I tend to think this too Elizabby but then I thought of people who lived in Germany during Hitler's time. To be patriotic to his reign would be (to me) a sin. So being patriotic (supporting your government in thought and action) would conflict strongly with Christian beliefs.


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Re: Patriotism... [message #537675 is a reply to message #537232 ] Tue, 26 May 2009 20:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I voted #4 and would have to know to what definition of patriotism we're to use to answer any other way.


Peace
Re: Patriotism... [message #537744 is a reply to message #537671 ] Wed, 27 May 2009 02:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Janice T. wrote on Wed, 27 May 2009 10:10

elizabby wrote on Tue, 26 May 2009 02:40

I think patriotism and Christianity are two completely independent factors, with nothing connecting them. So I think it is quite fine to be patriotic to any country, and be a Christian, or be non-patriotic and be a Christian. Christianity is a religious belief system, and patriotism is a political view. Since Christianity says nothing in particular about patriotism, I think we are free to do as we like.




I tend to think this too Elizabby but then I thought of people who lived in Germany during Hitler's time. To be patriotic to his reign would be (to me) a sin. So being patriotic (supporting your government in thought and action) would conflict strongly with Christian beliefs.




I think that was a very particular circumstance. As long as we are clear that patriotism comes AFTER love of God and obedience to God's commands, then I think we are on pretty safe ground. In most democracies, at least, politicians are fairly wary of stirring up religious sentiment against themselves and try to avoid antagonizing the churches - generally speaking.


Your sister in Christ,

Elizabby

Evie is six, Zoe is four, and Benji is two!

Not online as much these days, contact me through email or my blog if you want to talk to me!
Re: Patriotism... [message #538928 is a reply to message #537232 ] Fri, 29 May 2009 23:37 Go to previous message
Leigh  is currently offline Leigh
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Something else: I'm a Christian and I'm patriotic.


Leigh
Tennessee

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

~~Benjamin Franklin

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